I want to open a private driving school what are the requiremenst and who can i contact to assist me.

What a load of rubbish, honestly, when did any of the Drivers.com staff try and apply for either a driver's or a learner's license in South Africa?

The entire system is badly mismanaged, you have to stand in lines for 4 hours just to pay for your booking!

Getting the booking is a mission in itself, you have to spend hours on the phone trying to book a time. Whenever you phone you simply get a "We're too busy, try again later...". When you do finally get through, their computers are down (and haven't spend nearly 3 weeks trying to book a learner's license, it would appear their computer systems are never up!). On the odd occasion that their systems are working, they haven't receieved the bookings available from the testing stations, and I must phone again in an hour. 2 days later I finally managed to make a booking.

I would just like to clarify that this is the process simply to BOOK a learner's.

Having booked the learner's, at some random testing station over an hour away from where I live, and I live in a major town, you then write the test and spend a further hour waiting for the tests to marked, over 40 tests are individually marked by 1 person.
If you pass, you then go through a door and stand in yet another line for over 2 hours while you receieve you learner's license, once again assuming the computers are not down, if they are, you are sent away and told to return another day.

Hooray, you now have your learner's license!

But this is just the beginning...

You have to go through a similar process to get your driver's, and let me tell you, the levels of corruption in the testing officals is horrendous!
People are failed for no reason what so ever, they try and trick you into failing simply in the hope of a bribe.

If you do manage to make your way through the system, congratulations, you can now start driving on the South African roads, where around 60% of the drivers do not have driver's licenses and have never been taught or taken the tests, and 1 in 7 people caught drunk driving are just let go.

Personally, if I am approached by anybody willing to sell me a fake driver's license, I'm afraid to say I will accept it.
It will be cheaper and quicker than acquiring a legal one, and if I am caught driving with an illegal driver's license, it will costs me around R50 or 2x Happy Meals from McDonald's to have the traffic offical turn a blind eye, once again, still cheaper and quicker than a legal driver's license!

Nick,

Thanks for the comments on our article. ALL feedback is welcome. This article was written in 1993 and we should have updated it. We will try to do that now by requesting information from South Africa licensing administraton officials.

i totally agree with nick. the south african licensing department or system is terrible. it takes months to get a booking and the test is if i can say quite a waste of time. then the proper drivers test is even worse. you are failed for almost no reason just so that you can come again and they can take your money for again. everyone here is already aware of this

does any one know what the legal obstructions are in South Africa to do"private" driver testing?With the long waiting period to do a test some private company could help out

Nicks comments are spot on, working directly in this field, it is an embarrassment. It is perhaps typical of a 3rd-come 1st world country. Personally, I feel the problem is the inherent problem of a combination of all the technology in the world and inept operators! and the lack of enforcement, which in its self stems from poor management where the various heads are too intimidated or perhaps too "useless" to enforce the laws and processes that do exist, so we end up with a corrupt, inefficient, lazy, ill-disciplined system! Ed, as for your apologies...no need, you see even if you took the time to attempt to obtain an update or clarity as you mentioned you might, I feel for you, as then you yourself would have experienced the nature of the problem itself. Laws, proceedures and systems set in place are only as good as they are made to be by the operators, or as they are enforced, wherein lies the problem.

how do i obtain a learners licence if im a foreigner?

Someone whom I know and is a South African citizen, lost his driving licence. He doesn't live in South Africa anymore, but in Romania. I called the SA embassy in Budapest, Hungary, but they don't know what is it that he should do in order to get a new licence. Do you have any idea where he could apply for a new one? thanks

I obtained my learners license last year in Sept, I've been trying since to register for my drivers license with no luck. In Juuly i tried again and got a provisional booking and i was supposed to call back in August to confirm my testing date. I did everything right only to get a lame excuse that the admin dept will call me back to confirm my date. I really don't blame people who go out and buy fake drivers license. If anyone knows someone who can help please shout.

I would like to know how does one go about verifying a drivers license?

I have read the comments posted by some diabolical South Africans who seemingly are so bitter about the process of transition that they purposefully go about misinforming people about the process of getting a driver's license in South Africa.

I suggest that foreigners who are seriously seeking information about South Africa and how things work should contact the Consulates or Embassies in their home countries. Because getting information from sources these individuals online are so unreliable. Simply because, the information we get is from a set of individuals who are unhappy because they cannot get a chance to practice corruption and mismange the country and practice apartheid.

I move to South Africa from the Caribbean five years ago and i cannot identify with their concocted sad stories.

It's unfortunate that I can confirm most of these views are true. The Traffic Department or whatever it is called these days is corrupt down to the bone. Money just goes sideways, their systems are outdated and they dont know how to use it in the first place. bookings for learners licenses are 3-4 month waiting periods. I dont understand why they dont outsource the booking process to the post office? there are more of them. Its a really simple process. All they should require is a date/ID Number/funds. As simple as that.

How do I obtain my south african license again after being overseas for couple of yrs?Currently holding international license.Where,how and who to contact for more info please.

for "Richard" up there.If u are LEGALLY in my country,go to the offices.

Thanks for all the info. I have my Motorcycle Learners License and am trying to book for the Driving test. Could anyone give me an idea how long I'm going to have to wait, and if going to some remote testing centre will shorten this waiting perdiod?

Man...I just HAVE to tell you my story. After living out of SA for the past 20 years I recently returned there. I needed a drivers licence and was told to take the complete test. Being stuck for time I struck up a conversation with one of the examiners and told him I didnt know what to do as I didnt have the time available to wait almost a year to go thru' the learners/drivers process. yes, thats how long it btakes now, and it can even take longer...because of the backlog. To cut a long story short. It took me exactly 3 months to get my learners and drivers and I didnt write single test, or have to take a test for the drivers. I was present for it tho' I sat in the learners examining room, and made as tho I was writing the test. For the drivers a few months later I pitched up, hung around for about 5 hours and left with my drivers. The cost...R2000. I wont say where it occurred except to say that the testing facilities in the outlying areas offer this kind of service to 'anyone' with the gall and money to 'go for it'. happy driving. Bob.

Paul your views are completely wrong and it seems that you have been hanging out with the wrong people. These individuals here are stating the truth and it has nothing to do with their hate for the new government or because they cannot practise their policy of apartyheid. The fact is that the system is completely in acurate and that the government isnt doing much to fix it.

I made two bookings for my drivers in march and then again in july. When i went on the day in march they told me they cancelled all bookings for march and i must book again and pay again. Then i got another booking for July and again when i got there their systems were down and they decided to close down for the day. When i asked them how they can do this the manager simply told me "Youre not the first and your not the last."

You see my point? they dont give a crap. The only issue i disagree with here is the fact that they fail you unfairly unless they do that in less populated areas but as far as im concerned they dont fail you to get more money because they are already so full that they cant even handle the people that ae booking so why would they fail you and then try book you again? They wanna get you out of their way to try create more space for the rest.

As for everything else they do suck. Im going for my drivers today and i hope i pass. For anyone that is about to do their i recomend that you get a driving instructor, get 4 lessons and then you can also get him to come with u on the day of the test and show you the roots they take because he knows it so well.

paul from the caribbean

I am in the process of licensing, and being a black man, I can assure you that I have no animosity about the process of transition. however, i have to agree with others here. the licensing system is a complete failure. i fully expect to pay more than once while getting licensed, just as i already pay extra for similar services that my government guarantees. getting a duplicate ID book, for example, was much faster once i paid extra. it's a real problem and people, like yourself, who claim that every negative observation is animated by the discontent of settler, are not helping.

not everything about my country is positive, and claiming that negative speech is lies by whites isn't helping. we still suffer. maybe in your country things were so bad that this looks good. but this is my country and i and others deserve better.

I was so glad to learnt that getting a licence in South Africa is so easy,i wish to obtain one and become an accomplished driver in Johannesburg and take driving as a career,i'm a Zimbabwean by birth.

What drivers licence do i need to tow a caravan or horse box?

at what age can you book for your learners?

Well I agree The South African Driving Department is terrible! They only fail you because they want you to come back to pay again.
Knysna's Driving Department is very well known for it.It is definitely because of it that a lot people drive without or obtain fake ones.It's such a burden to get your license now. Not all S.A citizens have gotten their license the K53 way. Something should be done.

Here an idea of the logistics of an SA citizen applying for a learner's license:

I have to phone the call centre to make a booking to make a booking to write a Learner's test (read that again: *to make a booking over the phone* so that you can *make a booking in person* to write the test).

- The call centre accepts driver's license applications from 9 till 12, and learner's license applications from 12 till 4.

- I have attempted to call the call centre - in quick succession - 271 times. Not joking. There's nothing else to do but keep count.

- I have gotten though to music and voice prompts 18 times. Each time this lasts for 3 minutes, before you are disconnected.

That's it so far... still trying...

To Paul from the Caribbean: Whilst you may view certain comments here as racist, the problem is real. Please don't try to dismiss as racism that which is simply inadequacy on the part of a government structure that is not functioning as intended - it only demonstrates your lack of understanding and exposure, and is an exception to the norm.

I am a student at Ukzn, we have recently set up a newspaper with regard to licensing issues. The comments I have read on this conversation forum have been very informative. We would like to promote our newspaper and hope to maybe make an impact on the way our licensing department is run. Please visit our online newspaper at http://unlicensed.humsci.ukzn.ac.za

I'm sorry Paul but every last word I have read about the "system" is true.

Now here is the thing, instead of everyone just sitting around complaining about the things that are wrong in our beautiful country we should each get up and do something about it.

The people of a country should not be in fear of their government instead it is the government that should fear the people. The only way things will change is if we ourselves do something about it.

Don't get me wrong a lot of good things have and still are happening in this land, it's just that there are a whole lot of lose ends that still need to be tied up.

Come now South Africa lets stand together

Hi,

I am doing my drivers test on Friday and have been told by my instructor that I need to pay R1600 if I want a fair test. This makes me sick!

The system is very corrupt. My instructor says 95% of his students pay the money. The other 5% usually fail on stupid little things. He says in all his years of instructing, He has only ever had 1 person turn down the money (and that was because he was new, that same guy is now accepting money for passes).

Anyway, I will see how my test goes and hopefully wont get a corrupt official. I couldn't live with knowing I had to "pay for my license".

Will report back after the test!! Good luck all with getting your license.

lets take a look at costs for a second
im working on an average here so if im not
on the dot... sue me

learners - R100+
lessons - R160(avg) per lesson
x 10(avg) lessons
= R1600+ (tax free, i paid cash
i assume most of you did)
drivers = you can pay up to 500 depending
test on where you go, so lets call it
- R250

total - R1950 < remember this is per person
i went for my drivers twice..

i dont even know how to estimate the total of people that go for theie drivers per day,
but i see a damn good business oportunity to be had by the instructor and the guy that takes you for your test. they even caught the bast#$@s
on tape on carte blanche about a year or so back.

so far it looks like the cons outweigh the pro's.

Hey everyone!

I just did my test and passed first time!

I was very wrong about the system. It was actually my driving instructor who was the corrupt guy! I was informed by one of his employees that he would have taken the money and perhaps given 500 or so to the test guy.

The guy I did my test with was very friendly and professional!

well firstly our department is corrupt just like everything else in our country. i just wen't for my driver's test today and i did not even get the chance to drive because my front light glass was broken and i was failed, the fact that the car was in a good condition and everything was perfect did not count. i never knew that one can't drive with a broken light glass in south africa. this is the reason why most south africans buy our licenses illigaly, we hate the way things r done, if you dond have cash 4 de instructor then they are going to fail you. so why go if i can easly and stresslesly get my drivers while sitting @ home, all i have to do is have cash. fix corruption and racism and we will go the legal way.

matt you damn first timer.. dont act like you love the system just cause you got lucky :) you think you soo cool,jks... its all good.. live it up.. they got your details , they'l get the rest from you in parking fines..

Is it necessary to get an International Drivers Licence if we have a valid New Zealand drivers licence if we want to drive around South Africa.

I am moving to SA in February and I have a international Drivers License which along with my own drivers license will allow me to drive. However, can I change to a South African License easily? I am only there for a couple of weeks the first time but will be returning 9 weeks later. Any help will be great.
Thanks.

We moved back to SA after about 5 years in the US, and what a story it was to get my card-drivers license. I still had the license in my ID, and we moved away before it was my 'turn' to have it converted. When we returned, we lived on KZN south coast, and had to go to Durban to have the US licence viewed, a ,mailed-in notorized copy was not good enough for them to convert it. That process took 7 months. Just about the same amount of time, but much cheaper that to take the K53 again. I am once again back in the States, and quite by chance happened upon this website, and all the tales you guys tell makes me relive this very frustrating experience.

Matt. Stuff you. We all know that you bribed your instructor to make you pass unless the instructor was a family member. And any way even if your test was all legal and you didnt cheat, chances are you will still loose you liscence some day because that very same instructor took a bribe from some one else. its just a matter of time before he gets caught. so live it up while you still have a licence . System is a discrace proffesionalism my ass!1

i recently did a licence for a motor bike well i had to stand in line for hours ( eye test then to obtain learners then eye test again then to obtain the lic ) at least i had a laugh reading the signs about service delivery and each window max time to wait (one cashier/clerk for a major town ??)

yo
man,i honestly can relate to what you guys are all saying,im 18,however i dont have a learners license and obviousely not a drivers either.They made me wait for a year telling me that i wasnt able to book my learners even with a valid south african passport which is complete bullshit.oh and i dont have my ID either.You dont even want to guess how long ive been waiting for it...
Im going for my learners test next week.oh Joy.Yippie.
thanks for the info guys,and for this whole site.More information that any clown at home affairs could ever give
cheers

I am currently 18 years old. About 3months ago, immediatly after my 18th b-day I started to try and make a booking for my drivers licence. I finally got a booking for my licence a month ago. Yesterday was the drivers test in roodepoort station. I went for the test and everything was 100%.
On the way back to the office he started screaming at me and told me that I have violated a traffic law by driving over the speed limit, which was a false accusation by the way.
I kept on denying the fact that i drove over the speed limit.
And sure as hell the inspector failed me!!!
He wrote on the test paper that I had driven +- 50km p/h which is total bullshit!!!

I am sick of all this shit!! I have just arranged today to buy my (valid) licence through a metro officer for only R500(bargain)!!!

BUT we cant complain about the system cause there is no f@#!ing system

ha ha just loving reading everyones comments, i've currently returned from the eastern cape and decided to book my learners again instead of driving 9 hours back to the eastern cape. I booked last week and im writting this week. i was there for an hour and everything was done. The new system is a vast improvement from 9 months ago. I dont know about the rest of the county but thumbs up for pietermaritzburg licencing depo. They've really got their act together.

But still if they fail me for the fun of it i could be back on here at the end of the week playing a different tune.

You need to update your info!

Obtaining a drivers licence in South Africa is a nightmare to say the least. You are looking at a minimum of 6 months from date of learners to actual day of drivers test and that is irrespective of age or where you have driven in the world.

I have arrived in KZN SOUTHCOAST SA 12 weeks ago, now looking to buy a motor bike, i have a UK license , do i need a S African license? I want to be legal so if i do become a cropper on these roads at least im legal.

Well a good place to start if you're from South AFrica and need to get your license if http://www.idrive.co.za

I agree with all the comments. We went through hell with five kids getting licensing one after the other. In the old days, up to about 20 years ago (and this had nothing to do with the colour of your skin, the test was the same for everybody), it was assumed that you knew nothing about driving when you went to get a learners. You merely turned up at the traffic department with your birth certificate to prove you were 18, paid some money and got a learner's licence inother words you could now be taught how to drive on public roads. Then when you felt you were ready, you booked an appointment for a driving test (I got my appointment within a week). Then you had to pass everything, you were tested on road signs etc while you took the driving test and if you failed anything on the actual driving test, you had to do it again. You were not allowed to get a licence if you failed even one part of the driving test. Please look at who the best drivers are: the baby boomers. Despite all the nonsense about the k53 or whatever the test is called, the old system produced much better drivers and there were a lot less accidents. And before anybody says, there were fewer cars, that's rubbish we had single lane roads, not highways, and the death toll during the December holidays was a lot lower because you simply had to be more careful on the road.

Hi i wonder if someone can help me i have booked my Drivers test( surprsingly easy to do) . But anyway i was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to take the test in an automatic car, as i wont be driving a Manual anytime soon and my test is in two weeks . i have been for about 5 lessons in a manual and i have mastered the gears and all its just learning all the K53 stuff and parking . i have been driving an automatic for about 5 months now and can do everyhthing fine in it? Is it possible to just turn up in an automatic or must i phone and change it

I would like to obtain a south african driver's license, please advice. 0722497462 and my email address is mmonkoe@yahoo.com

I would also like any help from ANYONE. I have had my learners now for a while and i have been trying and trying and trying now for so long and nothing is happening.

ive tried for months , nearly a year , and the system and the corruption is so bad that its just intolerable !

i waited in randburg testing station from 3 in the morning 12 times and i was assulted twice whilst waiting...

i am hurt , i am tired and i cant keep on spending money on a system that wont work or keep its part of the bargin. i have been driving for a year now so i can drive perfectly.

PLEASE , I BEG OF YOU , ANYONE , CONTACT ME AT 0723244332 OR OVERDRIVE.KY@GMAIL.COM

please !

I would also like any help from ANYONE. I have had my learners now for a while and i have been trying and trying and trying now for so long and nothing is happening.

ive tried for months , nearly a year , and the system and the corruption is so bad that its just intolerable !

i waited in randburg testing station from 3 in the morning 12 times and i was assulted twice whilst waiting...

i am hurt , i am tired and i cant keep on spending money on a system that wont work or keep its part of the bargin. i have been driving for a year now so i can drive perfectly.

PLEASE , I BEG OF YOU , ANYONE , CONTACT ME AT 0723244332 OR OVERDRIVE.KY@GMAIL.COM

please !

I would also like any help from ANYONE. I have had my learners now for a while and i have been trying and trying and trying now for so long and nothing is happening.

ive tried for months , nearly a year , and the system and the corruption is so bad that its just intolerable !

i waited in randburg testing station from 3 in the morning 12 times and i was assulted twice whilst waiting...

i am hurt , i am tired and i cant keep on spending money on a system that wont work or keep its part of the bargin. i have been driving for a year now so i can drive perfectly.

PLEASE , I BEG OF YOU , ANYONE , CONTACT ME AT 0723244332 OR OVERDRIVE.KY@GMAIL.COM

please !

im sorry !!

I didnt mean to keep posting , my computer didnt want to respond... ( kinda like the people in charge of the licencing departments in the goverment)

but , what i said is true , and is meant all those times..

for Kelsey - suggest you take your test in a manual - thereafter you can always drive an automatic without having to do a 'conversion'. It is easier to move from a manual to an automatic, not the other way around. Good luck :)

i want to get the test papers on the web how and where can i get it???

WHAT IS THE FASTES WAY TO BOOK A LEARNERS LICENSE?

hi
does anyone know the requirements of a foreigner to getting a drivers licence in south africa.

Randburg Testing Station in Johannesburg is taking 50 applicants a day. Yesterday I arrived at 6am and there where 150 people in front of me. Thinking I would be first this morning I got there at 4:30am, but no... There where 30+ in front of me. I hung around for 3 hours when an angry mob gathered at the gate. A notice read "No bookings today". So I stormed off to work illegally on my motorcycle.

I have tried to call the call center, 5 months I tried. Every time they would tell me that no bookings or cancellations have been made available and that I should call again the next day. In fact there was no chance of me ever getting a booking in Randburg via the call center says Sunday Times. They where lying to me at the call center, wasting time and money on countless calls.

This morning there was a guy at the head of the line that had camped since midnight to be first, only to be turned away.

To answer many posts regarding obtaining a learners license in Johannesburg. It's beyond difficult, its borderline impossible. God only knows how drawn out and corrupt the rest of the process will be.

I pity anybody planning on booking, writing and driving. It's a scam.

this site sux man. i cannot believe it still has not been updated! do da maths-it's been 14 years since 1993! site=as crap as transport dept!!!!!!!!!

i want to become a driver what is first step

Well today I'm writing my learners for the 4th time - the 1st 2 times I failed, the 2nd I passed, got to book my drivers - for 6 months after I passed, failed, and couldn't get another drivers booking before my licence expiered! I've now been told by a gy, that he knows someone who I can bribe for my drivers and I'm tempted! I have spend over R3000 trying to get my drivers in the past 4 years.... Besides the waiting in the queues, and the 6 month wait between tests. The department closes at 3pm and 12pm every second day - and still takes lunch breaks... and then gets extra days off... sounds like a nice job...

I need help please, struggling to get anybody on a telephone number, my boss
is from Denmark but is now living in South
Africa, what are the process of applying for a South African drivers license. Does he need to go through all the formalities or how does it work. It's quite urgent please, I'd really appreciate it if somebody can help me with advice here..

Kind regards

I'm sorry, I have sent a letter to ask
how to change a Denmark drivers license
into South African, forgot to add my contactdetails: 011-609 7861.
Email: logic@qdisplay.co.za

How to change indian driving license into South African License
What is the procedure/

can i drive the vehicle in South Africa with Indian driving license

Name: Sudhakar
contact details: 072 593 1429
mailid: gsr@webmail.co.za

I just went today for my learners, my second time. Passed it with 2 mistakes.That is alright, I can accept that. First time I got my learners the first time, though I could not get a drivers appointment until only three days before my learners expired. failed that sorry.
I already foresee the trouble I am going to have making an appointment for my drivers but I pray that it wont be too difficult.
Yes booking an appointment is a nightmare but there is hope. I recently found out Ekurhuleni will be doing away with the call centre and reverting back to booking over the counter and you will have to prove that you stay in that area before they will accept you.
A very insightful website where a lot of questions can be answered and a K53 test can be downloaded is www.mydriverslicence.co.za. That girl Priscilla should go work for the counsel and kick their butts.

Getting my drivers lisense.. the bane of my existance!The mission began in trying to book a learners appointment February 2006 and everywhere I came I was told to come in January 2007! Went back in January 2007 to be lucky enough to secure a booking in June 2007 (6 months later!). Passed my learners and booked an appointment for January 2007. Went for my driver, passed my yard yest (which I was most concerned about) - went out on the road and ended up being penalised 50 odd times (loosing 50 points) for not taking my gears further than 3rd gear (taking into account I drove no more than 40km per hour except when I did the emergency breaking action). Now my driving instructor had never indicated having to go further than 3rd gear when driving 40km per hour. I subsequently failed this being told "you can kick yourself because you've now actually failed because you didn't change beyond 3rd gear". Is this right? Help!

Lynn, can't see failing for not using a gear higher than 3rd unless you were drivign about 70 km or more. I can see losing points but not failing ....

i'm looking to download the K53 learners test questionnaire from the internet..can anyone tell me where to get it from?

Oh Gosh.... I'm still holding on to book for my learners, I shudder to even think when on earth I will get my lisence??? I need it urgently as I am a civil engineering student and we are required to have our lisence to complete the module. I know I'm asking for a miracle but does anyone know a faster way or a faster place to book??

Cant they make an internet application form for your learners and drivers bookings it will save so much time instead of phoning the call centre number.

I am already a professional driver who have a Mauritian driving license can drive car/ bus /truck and having working with in fifteen years as bus driver.Now i would like to get a South African driving licence

hi how can i book for my learners test without going to the test station my number is 0733131264 e-mail address is fanasi isthakathi@yahoo.com

whats up people,

Nect month i am going to work in Johannesburg. So people what about going to party!!! :-) Write me your email so we can party all together!!!! And yes, i need a driven license too, maybe someone can help me to buy one?

So i went for my driver's test today for the second time. I must say i am really disappointed. The people who test you are so nasty and cudn't be bothered to show the already nervous people some manners. i hate that i ca drive on the road perfectly but the testing station just wants to make money out of you!!

How long have I to convert my English Licence to South Africa after I get
a:Residancy
B:Green ID Book

Going to Jo'burg in May, and i'm trying to get my driverslicense in Holland...not going to make it i'm afraid. And also afraid that it wont work in Jo'burg. Does anyone know how it works with getting your license in Jo'burg, or how/where you can buy one??
reading the stories above, doesnt really make me wanna take ANY test or spend any money on it....

Respond to nietsienasi@hotmail.com please!!! :)

Does anyone know how the new system now works?? The systems that are being implemented this year(2007). Do we still have to go to the random stations to make a booking or what??? How do we go about writing or making a booking for our learners now???

Concerning my previous comment, if anyone has any info on this please email me at vimal108@gmail.com

Thanks a mil for touching on this Nick. I have had an even worse experience with the licence Dept. Writing about my experience wouldn't help because I know that none of "these people" give a damn obout our comments and they are not going to do anything about it. It appears as if that these peaple have picked each other and the mision is to push corruption to its peak. The system is a total disgrace and I think all these people getting payed out of our tax should kiss thier jobs goodbye. I am totaly furiuos about what is happening in our country

This is scary. At the point where the system is so corrupt that normally law- abiding citizens (and foreigners)are FORCED to buy licenses and anything else that they need to get by is completely shocking.

Apparently we can now book our licenses online. Does anybody have any information about that?

I have my stories too about the nightmare it's been to get my license and being a "goody-two-shoes" am VERY reluctant to go about it the illegal way but I understand why people do it and I think that there will come a time where I am completely gatvol and just go for it!

So I'm still hanging on to the hope that in this craziness something good will come out BUT I do have my limits.

I think that the Dpt of Traffic should see this website and LEARN!!!

SHEEEEEEZ. I now fully comprehend what it takes to get a license but for no lack of trying, cannot comprehend why it need be that way.

In order to avoid wasting my time can anyone point me in the direction of a decently corrupt official/s so that I can get my code 10 without undue delays?

Just a note for the authorities - This country is clearly growing faster than you are thinking - get with it and stop f-ing the public around. After all they pay you wages and your bribes!

Can i be able to book for my drvers license test date online(internet)havins to call is tiring

hey sedzani thats exactly wat i wanna do!!!! this is pretty stupid dont you guys think? here we are sending comments about the long waits nd ish, nothing is ever gonna be done about it!!

I want to know if is possible to register through internet for a learner driver licence.I heard all the traffic department are closed until the 17th April 07.I want to know if is possible to book online this time because the call centre is not helping at all.

trying to get ur license legally is waste of time. if u can buy ur way to one go for it

if only i can get a person that can make me a fake drivers licence. I must say things in SA are changing for the worse. What is our government doing to solve situations in this country and for how long do we need to wait? for now i cant enjoy my life cause of a simple legal card on the road. I am a perfect driver, cause i drive my fathers car and friends cars daily on the road, i obey traffic signs on the road, but because a traffic officer stops me i have to pay a ridiculous R500. I mean if i can move the car why should i do the time wasting yard tests and all. I am always on the road why should i be yarding around and being failed for not paying the tjotjo. I mean we all work! Put simple structures rather than spending money on expensive cameras. I think apartheid was better cause one thing 4 sure the was order! my late uncle died fighting for this country and believe u me he tumble around to see whats happenin now. Any its my opinion. I am so pissed with my so called leaders!!!!!!!!!

HOW DO I BOOK 4 MY DRIVERS LICENCE CUZ I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT U CAN ALSO DO IT ONLINE? I DON'T WANT TO JOIN THOSE LONG QUES...

THANX
0825537307

i want todo my motorcycle licence anyone or driving school to help?

to do motorcycle licence help or driving school 0725616888 or maljos25225@webmail.co.za

Hi, I am honest if i say i only realized this morning that i have been driving with a expired lisence fot just over one year now. I never knew i have to renew it after 5 years. i thought once you have the thing, you have it forever. What must i do now? Can i still go into the offices and just renew it?

well yes i want to drive a school bus how do i learn how and ware d oi get a licends to do that???

Lize, depends on where you are. If it's a year or more you may need to take a test again.I think some places it's 2 years.

wats the name of the address to book learners online? please...anybody?!?!

i know the situation,, is pathetic
in the uk to get a scooter license you do a cbt test, you can book today have the test the next day, it only takes 3 hrs and you can, be on the road in a week.. im in my late 20ts,, i have been f£$%^^ked around since i was 18yrs old,, 10 of my close friends bought there license,,,,, good luck i need it.

I now believe that you either have to take your drivers licence where you got your learners or your nearest testing ground. The waiting list is 5 months??. Learners will expire if driving test is a failure

Its such a pain to see how many people are frustrated by our licencing system. I have been failing so many times i don't have the energy for the test anymore. I went thru the test 7 times since 2004, the last test being last week. Let me say in March this year i was tested 3 times and each time i was failed for the same thing, for a slight roll in the yard that i couldn't even see myself, i had to insist on replay of the video clip to see the damn 'rolling' they were talking about.In all 7 tests, i've never been to the roads, ended in the yard, never knocked down a pole, the inspectors even have guts to let me finish the yard test only to tell me i failed. The other time i was failed for taking 22 mins instead of 20 mins in the yard. I'm so fed up I think i'm going to buy it over the counter now, but my worry is that there are lots fake licences out there and i don't want to fall prey to that. How can i identify a fake licence, plis advise.

this new system is really irritating.i mean how long are we going to have to wait for their systems to be ready.i have to book for my test..i'm sure that by the time their systems are ready, i would've forgotten everything i was tought. this is really unfair.karabo don't worry bout failing i suggest you stick to doing it the right way in which u have. don't loose your integrity in the process.

Hi, I have a driver's license from Nepal. Can I drive with it or can i convert it into international license, if yes how? Thanks in advance.

anil152@hotmail.com

Anil, you can get a international IDP from Nepal and it will be good for a year in other countries that recognize the IDP

Hi

I am non south african.
Can I get south afrcan driving license.

why do you have to be 17? i thought they changed that shit earlier this year?

South Africa cheats you on your Learner's license sometimes even a few times before you pass hence more money for them. The officials don't even allow you to look at the results. I wonder why! The system sucks. I will have a poll at http://www.snailsonsteroids.co.za to see what other South Africans have to say.
Just my 2 cents.

We have eerily similar headaches in the Philippines (where I live) but many of that is solvable with a few hundred pesos worth of bribery. ;)

Do you guys bribe down there to get your license? Let me know....

Well what allot to say about our lovely systems South Africa have. I obtained my drivers license 1992. Then government had a brilliant idea to make money for there future increases and said we must apply for our card license. well that was no problem till I landed up in hospital from a bike accident (3 months) came out and was told the dead line was over and it was my fault cause I had more than enough time to get this done. Now they tell me I must re-do my drivers. What shit is that, if I have past my drivers why f#ck must I do it again? This is the biggest money making scheme government has ever come up with. I have done nothing wrong to have my license taken away from me. I don’t drink and drive, I don’t rape, murder or steal. I am a law abiding south African who went and got his license legally and has had it taken away due to circumstances out of my control. Do you think this is fair...?

I went for my drivers licence about 3 days ago and the lady who tested me was so rude and nasty that she made me cry before she even failed me! I know i can drive and did nothing wrong, but you can't argue with them!! I failed for not doing my "5 point" checks. I made sure i looked like a total dork doing those checks, but like i said, you can't argue with them. The system is so messed up that i wasn't able to get a booking since January, so eventually just to get a booking i had to pay R400 because i am desperate for my licence. Now i have to wait another 6 months before i can get another booking. It's really terrible, i actually wouldn't mind buying my licence, because i don't want to have to go though so my junk all over again then fail because the testers are having bad days and want me to come back again so they can make more money out of me. Im so so angry!!!!

guys i just need to tell you this are was amazed to see other guys having their license by just buying it. But us we struggle to get the right contacted and service please help if you know what i can do or who to contact charmaine

I WENT FOR MY DRIVERS LICENSE TEST IN 15/10/2005 AND WAS TOLD THAT I HAD PASSED, I WAS ISSUED WITH MY LICENSE AND THEN WEEK LATER I GET A CALL FROM THE RTI THAT MY EXAMINER HAD MADE A MISTAKE WITH MY MARKS THEREFORE MY LICENSE WAS INVALID,I COULD'NT GET A BOOKING FOR A RE TEST OR ANYTHING, AND NOW HAVE TO GO BACK FOR MY LEARNERS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN - IM EXTREMELY PISSED OFF!!!!!

this country is a joke. how the hell is 1 supposed to get a drivers licence in this pothetic country when the licencing dept do,esnt even answer their phones for a booking?!!!!!!!!! this country and the way it is run is a joke! it pisses me off!!!ive been informed that i was on a 3 month waiting list and that my learners boocking was being attended to. 4 months later and i am still waiting!!!!!!!!!! what do i do?!!!!!!!!

i was in the waiting list 4 a period of a month. i receive an SMS to confirm my date . but when i go to WATTLOO i was told that sys of SMS is not working anymore. u can only make a booking through a mail.in that website i only get USA Infor. Traffic department why r u playing hide & seek with us? can u pls come straight & tell us the right & easy way of get our drivers.

hi there,

i have a driving license from india, i am currently live in uk. i am planning to obtain a southafrical driving license.. can you help..i would like to know how much it will cost me( i dont mind bribing )and how long it will take to get a license from south africa...

please help.. my email address is: jishisaidu@yahoo.co.uk

Well well and i thought i was the only 1 (not). I have spent the last year trying to get a valid completely legal drivers license. Horrible experience to say the least i might add. I have bribed for appointments but never for the license itself as i cant afford to get a criminal record and lose my spot at university. Needless to say there is almost as i feel now no point in getting an appointment ... i have failed that test a grand total of 7 times. I promise you its not just the fact that i have a complete disregard for traffic rules or cant drive at all. I have driven a total of 30000 km ilegally and i have never endangered any other persons life in doing so, yet still my testers at 5 various testing stations all set out to deceive you into making mistakes during the test or simply invent resons to fail you whenever they feel like it. My most recent test i lost a mere 15 of the marks available when you start the test .... and i was failed for apparently driving into a dangerous situation... because a speeding bmw was driving behind me on a single lane road in the last 500 meters of the test. Now i know your thinking hey you should have complained why are you telling us. The simple fact of the matter is that it does not reach the ears of any person willing to do anything. I dont care about apartheid, corruption, weaknesses in the system anymore as i have had quite my fill of those things. I JUST WANT MY LEGAL LICENSE. I love my country but i get sick to my gut whenever i hear the curse "good luck with your drivers test" being spoken to any poor soul.

getting a drivers in sa is a 2year job.
doing mine 2mrrw morning....
then maybe i can get on with my life

No matter what you say, do or try and accomplish with any South African department you are going to waste your time, money and lose a lot of patience. We must all remember the men and women in these government departments were given their jobs due to affirmative action and not cause they wanted the job. They think that the world owes them big time and that’s why the have no interest or any pride in what they do. Do your self a favor and never put your faith or heart into any government origination because you will just be let down over and over again. What ever you do, do it legally. Don’t give them the satisfaction of taking your money you worked hard for.

i whant to baye my license for 1000

I am coming back to South africa for an undisclosed amount of time, and want to know if I can drive around on my New Zealand Restricted licence, if anyone knows, please comment back. Thanks

HI. Can anyone please give me the contact of someone who i can buy my licence from over the counter way. Please guys im desperate and i will pay. I just have had such bad expriences with the Traffic dept..It's not even funny anymore and i have had enough. Preferably somewhere in the eastern cape, but if not then anywhere else is fine.
please email me urgently laven01@webmail.co.za

Does anyone know where I can buy a valid driver's license?My learners expires in a month.

Please email me blkdancer4u@yahoo.com

Hi Fazarally

I also have Mauritian driving licence but live in the uk, have you had an answer to your question yet? Lara

Does anyone know where I can buy a valid SOuth african driver's license?My learners expires in a month.

Please email me blkdancer4u@yahoo.com

wow...just read thru a years worth of comments, scary...
im going for my drivers 4 the second time next week, 1st time i flunked was my fault, hope i dont stuff up again as my learners expires the day after. i have actually found the officials in my (very small) town quite friendly and accomodating but, i fear, not up for bribes.
agreed, K53 is a load of crap, nobody drives like that, its utterly ridiculous!

I have recently moved from Zimbabwe to South Africa and would like to know how I go about converting my Zim Drivers Licence to South African, as I would like to purchase a new vehicle and need a south African Drivers licence.

hey all. i absolutely love the comments!!!! they sre so funny yet so very true. i am passing out for the second time in december. should i go or just buy a licence any ways? email me samscience@yahoo.com

I am terribly looking 4 the driver license, does anyone know i can get booking as soon as next week? I really need to buy a car beginning of next month. Email me 'demov2006@gmail.com'!!

hi all. im getting realy desperate as my learners expires in a weeks time. please could anyone tell me where i could buy my licence from or get a quick booking. please help out anyone. laven01@webmail.co.za mail me asap. thanks

Could someone please help me.
Im parsualy disabled in my left hand and I would like to get my drivers license for car or motorbike, Its not a problem for me to drive or ride but Im not sure if they will pass me in the driving test because I wont beable to perform all the test because I dont have 100% use of my hand, Is there a way I could get one?

Thanx so much for you help and God bless.

My email is: barratt.wane@gmail.com

If I'm in South Americ and my driving permit expire date expire soon. Could I renew that from here or would I have to go back home?

helo im goin for my drivers on the 12 of nov this is goin to be the second time now.they make it so freakin hard for u 2 pass and it takes so long 2 get a new booking so if anyone can help me buy a licence plz contact me at russell@goggaconnect.co.za

ek is opsoek na iemand wat my kan help om 'n kar lisensie te kry voor Desember, die verkeersmense dop jou oor enige rede.Sal tot R2500 betaal.

Is Indian Driving License is valid in South Africa?

hi der went 4 my drivers 2 day and failed for the second time now.When i was finshed with the yard test the guy told me that i had failed he said that i had not cheaked my blind spots porperly or some kak like that and the i used counter steering that had lost me my marks this made me freaking angry as i was sure that i had cheaked my blind spots and wat the hel is counter steering? im feeling so pissed off now. now i knw why people turn to buying fake licenses.my learners is about to expire now so can any one pleaze help me abtain a bought license? i would realy appretiate it.you can contact me at russell@goggaconnect.co.za

hi der went 4 my drivers 2 day and failed for the second time now.When i was finshed with the yard test the guy told me that i had failed he said that i had not cheaked my blind spots porperly or some kak like that and the i used counter steering that had lost me my marks this made me freaking angry as i was sure that i had cheaked my blind spots and wat the hel is counter steering? im feeling so pissed off now. now i knw why people turn to buying fake licenses.my learners is about to expire now so can any one pleaze help me abtain a bought license? i would realy appretiate it.you can contact me at russell@goggaconnect.co.za

Hey Guys, I'm going for my test next week. It's my first proper test coz last time they failed my car, the car's speedo apparently wasn't working properly. Didn't even get to drive. Had to make another booking. 4 months later here we are... Any advice for the road test. Apart from rolling, blindspots, crossing solid lines and speed limits is there any advice for me to pass first time ?

I need help...I'm currently working in the UAE and have to renew my South African drivers licence from here in order to get my UAE drivers licence. Does anybody have any idea how I can do this?
Trust me...if you think the RSA licence department is &*% then you surely haven't seen the UAE one.

hi there,

if you want a drivers lisence go to the testing station in queensburgh, just outside durban. i paid a R400 "gratuity" got my fully legal lisence without doing the test..

just go chat to the driving schools accross the road, they will sort u out.

Lads, I'm living in Ireland now.
Exchanged my SA licence for an Irish one - arrived in the post the next day.

Did my motorbike licence here, took 3 months to get a Learners test and another 4 months to get the full test.
The difference is I wasn't ripped off and these waiting periods are standard.

Great country, miss SA - but not it's crap, inturn I have to put up with 220 days rain a year!

Hope SA sorts itself out, there would be so many more tourists there for it.

...And I always support the bokke

Hi,
The south African license system is the worst I have ever seen. I came here in SA 2 months ago somehow I was able to get learners license. But after calling 100 times to call center I got the booking for the drivers test. I paid the fees after spending 5 hours in a queue and went there on time for the test but they told me that the date is fully booked and it is call centers mistake that they have given u the date.
Now testing people and call center people were blaming each other for the mistake. They told me there is no other way than to book another date and the fees receipt which I paid is valid. But again I went calling on call center and after 40 attempts they told me that as u have alrady paid the fees we can not book another date for u.
What a bullshit! Do they want to steal my money ? Do I have to pay again !
Folks I want to make the police complaint about this. please suggest me is this possible ?
They have wasted my time, money and gave me lots of frustration

need to buy a drivers lisence , any contacts in South Africa , am desparate

sorry forgot to put email address ceciliaa@iafrica.com where can I buy a lisence have learners but am desarate
PLS prepared to pay R2500

hi guys

if anyone knows where to obtain a drivers license from instead of having to line up in queues and having to face the hassles associated with it would be great. pls feel free to contact me on chillax959@yahoo.com

what are the penalties for expired drivers licences?

I desperately need a fake drivers license but one that scans. I bought one in nyc for $120 but it got taken away because the club was scanning ids. Soooo I'm out $120 and can't get into places anymore )-: How legit and scannable are these ids n which is best?

so gauteng thinks they smart with their little "gauteng call centre" for bookings! i have my learners and i've been waiting for 4 months for a booking. i've missed a couple of job opportunities because i don't have a license. how is this "call centre" suppose to help the public.

this is really frustrating! tempting to know there is someone willing to give you a license for a small bribe.

what is a desperate man to do?!

I'm a pilot from California and on a trip I lost my drivers license. The FAA requires that I carry a picture ID with me when I fly so I had to get a new drivers license while I was in Georgia. I walked in and spend about 1.5 hours then walked out with a Fresh Georgia License...my point?

If you don't like it in your country, move to mine! :)

I went for my test last year and i failed it.If you see how rude this people there to us.And i failed because i refuse to pay the bribe.I swear they will never get my money. So on the 19 of Feb im going for my second time and i will come back with my licence.

hai there any one ter to let me know the process for acquiring licence or any ways.mail to me ssdop@hotmail.com

Hi guys.
I've spent an interesting last hour reading through all the comments on this page and although I've not come across bribery and false licencing, I agree that the testing officers have a serious attitude problem.

Im from Cape Town, Northern suburbs.
I booked my learners in april 2006. I wrote 5 months later and passed first time. Attempting to pass my drivers hasn't been as easy.

I booked my drivers in october 2007. I got an appointment for Feb 7 2008. I reckon the waiting period between booking and testing is unaccebtable.

Thanks to luck and desperation i got a booking at Durbanville Traffic Dept. for Jan 11. I was failed after 4 min and 23 sec for "rolling" while alley docking up a slope. The testing officer, was extremely blunt to the point of rudeness.

I still maintain that I was failed for an invalid reason. Firstly I didn't roll. Secondly, it was 2pm on a friday afternoon, not the ideal time to impress a traffic officer determined to leave the station early.
How does this work???
It takes months to get a booking, then some impatient woman having a bad day on the job fails you for no reason and reduces your self esteem to dirt level?

Im not in denial. If I had rolled I would of raised my hands and accepted defeat. I was told to remove my car from the yard and I admit i was near hysterical. A clipboard and a form were shoved through my window and I signed without a peep.

But hows this...
Durbanville T.Dept was empty. Totally completely empty.
I went over to the bookings desk and asked the woman there if they had any available cancellations. She said no. Then I asked her to check Feb 7th and she argued that there were no cancellations on that day. I then explained that I had a booking and wanted to confirm it. She asked if I'd failed my test now, and told me I have no right to a second booking, because they're not allowed. IS THIS TRUE??? Nowhere have I seen a law stating that multiple bookings can't be made.
I argued back, defending my pocket and the R120 Id forked out for the second booking and she slammed the appointment book shut and hurled in under a desk. Literally!

Also, a friend of mine had two bookings. She passed the first one and decided to give her second booking to another friend. When they got to Durbanville T.Dept her second booking had been given away. An officer present was extremely rude to her shouting something about how friends cant be trusted and caused a huge scene. It took two weeks to get her R120 back from the Dept.

I have some questions If anybody would like to help me on this...

Is it all just a money-making racket?
IS it illegal to make multiple bookings?
Is it legal to have a yard on a slope?
Does anybody know anything about Durbanville traffic Dept failing all first time applicants?
and why are testing officers and T.Dept personnell such shits?

the driving facillities in south africa sucks big time.having to wait for an entirely 3hrs only to be told that we are fully booked come back after 2 months.why dont they tell before queing up for an appointment,or put up a notice board to inform people bout bookings.south african driving department fasilitation sucks.

Interesting - Never knew this site was here. I have spent WAY too much money making bookings, being failed (no explanation) and then told I was late for another test when I was there exactly 5 mins before the test started!!! DAMNIT!!!! Where can I buy a license? Not to mention the Port Shepstone Departments very rude and obnoxious guy whos handles and marks the test - what a fucking idiot.

Okay... So enough with the waiting already... Who knows where to buy a licence and how much??!!

i have read comments on this site in horror. my company from UK is relocating me to SA shortly and am told i need to obtain a SA driving licence-well reading the above looks like it will never happen. do there exost professional firms who can manage a swap of UK licence to SA licence for us?
thanks
mike.arkell@diak.com

i want to exchange malawi license.to sout africa is possible?please let me know.if so i life in the uk do i have to cam to sout africa or i can do it from here?

thanks
abdi
00447940391950
babyboy395@hotmail.com

hi there i need a SA driving licence, im in the uk, i wont be able to come and do the test. you should have good links with the people who give licences. im willing to give £250 per original licence you get me. i have soo many customers here who are willing to pay more.my SA friend will come and give your money you will give the licence he will also contact the department and see if they hav the licence on system. so .NO SCAMS OR FRAUDS. my email add is akz86@hotmail.com
plz contact me

WHY WHEN WE ARE DOING YARD TEST FOR CODE 2 THEY GIVING US ONLY 20 MINUTE BUT FOR CODE 10 SAME 20 MINUTE AND THEY ARE NOT DOING PARALLEL PARKING,3POINT TURN.THEY SUPPOSE TO GIVE US 30 MINUTE.IS NOT FAIR AT ALL SOMETHING NEED TO BE DONE.

HEY ROY U MEAN ROSSBURGH OR QUEENBURGH IN DURBAN.PLS IM DESPARATE

I have been driving without a licence for 3 years due to this messed up system, Im looking to buy a valid licence anyone that can help pls email me silverbroomstick@gmail.com

I married an American who now lives with me in Joburg. Because she doesn't have an SA ID#, she applied for the National Road Traffic Act certificate at Langlaagte Station on Gold Reef Road which gave her an offfical page to use to book her leaners. This took 1 hour.

She booked her learners by calling the call center a a month later she wrote it in senderwood. Everyone was professional and she passed first time. I was there with her - only 1 person failed and a full sitting of 30 people wrote at 8:30am sharp. Now she's learning to drive...

I don't deny the system is shocking and all your experienced must be true, so I only hope the process of getting the actual test and license isn't as bad as the wealth of reports above :)

The caveat is that it took ages to get her official residency in SA - but now that's another story for a different forum - If you think the Traffic Dep is bad - wait (all you internationals) until you deal with Home affairs :(

The South african trafic department is a disaster,Poeple buy drivers licences no wonder we always have accidents on our roads, I have booked for the drivers test date since november last year until now I have not heard a word from them, something must be done in that dept.seriously.We cant just exceptthat the deptment is bad someone must be in the position to do something about this.

Hi

I want to know, I have a Victorian state. Australia driving lisence, do I need an Internasional Driving Permit to rent an AVIS car in South Africa?

Your Australian license in is English so there should be no problem. However, an international permit is so easy to get that why not do it.

Anyone who needs an SA driver`s or learners licence or to convert any licence to SA`S can contact me at emmanuelmahlangu@yahoo.co.uk[PFROFESSIONAL P DRIVING SCHOOL]. I have staff that sits on the phone the whole day making bookings with the call centre.[send us your details and we will take care of the rest]

Anyone know if I can change my Irish drivers license to a south afican one on a temporary resident permit? I am married to a South Africa, I have Temporary residence but I work in the Middle East. My main problem is that my Irish one is out of date and for me to renew it I have to go back to Ireland. Add up the costs and its huge. Anyone have any solution? Thanks. Email is gogorman2001@yahoo.co.uk

Hi,

I have an international driver's license that's valid in all other countries but the country of issue.

Can anyone advise on if it is valid in South Africa? And where can I get official confirmation of this?

Temi,
Here's a list of all the countries that accept the International Driving Permit
http://www.drivers.com/article/937/
South Africa is on the list, so you should be OK. However, you still need to present your regular license from whichever country you reside

Oh really? So all is ensure I have both the driving permit and my local drivers license and I'm cool?

Phew! What a relief!

Thx a billion DK!

I was born in South Africa but now live in Sydney, Australia. I am coming back to South Africa at the end of this year and was wondering if anyone knew if I could apply for a South African drivers licence because I am so confused as to who can and cannot etc. The driving system is different here where you can get ur learners at 16 and then your red p's (provisional driver) at 17 and then green p's at 18 and then u can get ur full license after 24 months of driving with ur green p's. Argh its so confusing but i was just wondering if anyone knew.
thanks

Why dont u people stop complaining and go to a f n driving school if u failed u failed cant blame the officers for ur stupidity. Why dont u guys run to ur moms like u used to do f n idiots

Taz needs to see a psychologist.

I am South african who has been in the UK for 3 months, I,ve just noticed that I've just lost my South African licence card I've had for 3 years, but I wish buy a car here in England and I don't know how obtain it again since I won't be in SA for a while, Please help!

Why not just take the UK test and get a UK license?

Hi, I'm a person who needs to have a driver's licence by the end of this month.I can pay up to R2500.Please help me.My e-mail is: papatom@webmail.co.za.I live in Mafikeng and I can come to places like Gauteng and Limpopo to make a deal.This is urgent.I WANT TO BUY IT.I WILL PAY CASH.Contact:papatom@webmail.co.za.

Hi, I'm a person who needs to have a driver's licence by the end of this month.I can pay up to R2500.Please help me.My e-mail is: papatom@webmail.co.za and my cell number:0768806244.I live in Mafikeng and I can come to places like Gauteng and Limpopo to make a deal.This is urgent.I WANT TO BUY IT.I WILL PAY CASH.Contact:papatom@webmail.co.za or on cell:0768806244.

hey people can u tell me what site i can download learners papers from

can i drive in southafrica using my indian driving licence

Wow! So much said in 2 years and the SA drining licence system is still flawed! Well i have this Zim licence which lasts forever but if it is stolen it sounds like i am royally Screwed!!!! Well unless i find out how to buy my licence!! Oh and i agree, TAZ you are useless.

Wel on the 25th of June I will be doing my driver's license for the 7th time. I have been failed because a taxi pushed ME off the road, My car mysteriously rolled backwards while in first gear and driving out of the parallel parking, I have hit an imaginary barrier while driving on the road, again my car mysteriously rolled backwards while the handbrake was up and another time I failed because the Handbrake didn't make the "correct" sound when I pulled it up. I'm fed up, if they fail me again because of some lame ass excuse I'm going to buy it. R2500 for a driver's license bought against R4000 spent in obtaining learners, and driving lessons just to fail it over and over again. Oh and BTW, if they don't like the way you look you can forget about passiing it until you "donate" some money to their cause...

email me fi you know how and were i can buy s.a license i am foriner. in johannesburg i am european.

I had to leave for the Uk while chaos ruled in our licensing department. I wanted to renew my drivers license, but could not do so. My license expires on the 19th of June. How can I go about renewing it or get an extention until I return in September.Been writing to different government sites without reply! Please just answer or mail me at artrikascrapart@googlemail.com

Things is falling apart in SA! I needed to renew my drivers before I left for the UK. Now I'm staying until the 4th of September 08 and my license expires on the 19th of June. How can I get it renewed or at least just get an extention untill I'm back in Cape Town?

Taz ou are an F n IDIOT.. I can drive VERY well and even my drivinh instructor does not know how i have failed 5 Times YES 5 times.. so you should SHUT UP before you put as all down OK

I went for my SA drivers licence back n 1985. I called the licencing department and booked my licence for the 11th March 1985 my 18th birthday was on the Sunday and the 11th the monday so I did it then. I passed first time and we where then tested by the traffic police. The guy before me was black, he also passed first time. It is strange but back then the system worked, what happened?

Can anybody please let me know how I can verify a licence? (if its legit)I was hoping the department has a website like home affairs do where one can check their ID

my husband has south african and texan truck licences and has been driving trucks for 20 years. Have been told he can swop it for a an english car licence only (money making scam!) but can swop it it Ireland for a full truck licence. we currently live in england so need an irish address. can anyone help?

i want to find out if you do hire drivers? i have a code 10 driving licence with pdp and i am currently looking for a job. my email address is viniedavincy@webmail.co.za. your responce will be highly appreciated

My husband is looking to do his code 14 licence. We live in Johannesburg, Can anyone please recommend a driving school and a good one your response will be greatly appreciated
sherrie.orlando@yahoo.com

boo-hoo the only idiot is the person who claimed the people at d.dept r shits and yet went back to make another app. come on KAT if the officer was rude and the staff so ignorant whyd u go back? to bribe them or to admit u were wrong? whos the idiot now?

Perhaps you should inquire with some of the ANC MP's on where to buy licences. If I recall correctly, one was recently caught driving on a false licence. Having gone through the licencing process in South Africa, the system is corrupt and you will fail more than once. It is easier and cheaper to buy one. This also applies to any moving violation fines. Anybody who is under the illusion that the whole system is not corrupt is not living in a state of reality in the current South Africa!!

Hello, i want to know where can i download the actual learner license test for 2008 in gauteng area,
thanx
wayne

I am interested to have a south african driving license. If anyone can help please email me @
govindarajen@yahoo.co.uk

i would like to have questions and answers for a learners licence pls.

i keep failing the rules please help me especially regarding the rules the questions are usually very tricky

Gordon’s bay driver's or learner's license department South Africa is the worst most unorganised place ever for some one like me that came there for the first time there is absolute chaos I saw 1 guy when I just came in that threw a huge fit screaming and after a hell of a long wait 2half hours 3 other people that just one after the other just decided to walk away somebody should report this ultra bad service to their department head and fire the lot!!!! Waiting for hours for something that should take a few seconds is really frustrating!!! wake up you losers are wasting peoples time and money!!!

i found 1 dept that actually helps people and r friendly they are the staff at durbanville traffic. i stay in noordhoek and i went all the way because my friends couldnt stop speaking bout the service...thanks staff u deserve an award 4 best dept in s.a.

I am married to a SA citizen for 6 years.We have been living in Australia for the past 6 years and we moved back to SA in 2007.Since then i have been refused a learners licence booking because i do not have a SA ID#.I need advice from someone who was in my position.I am desperate

Hi mana,
we are in the same position having no SA ID book, but passports and valid visas for the lat 8 years up to 2012. However you need a Traffic Registration No. and some of the Provinces (MP) refusing to issue those anymore. GP suppose to be still fine. Just don't tell them you want to apply with this No for a drivers license. Just tell them you want to Reg. a car under your name. There is no law that you as foreigner can't own property (house or car) in SA. So they have to issue a No. later with this Traffic Reg. # you might find a office where you are able to get a driver license test booking.
If it's working - I'm not quite sue yet, because we are trying it out as I'm writing. Hope that is helping a bit.

Hi Holger
Thanks for the information.I really appriciate your help.I will try and get the Traffic Reg # and see how it goes.Good luck on your endeavours.

Hi,

Can someone tell me where to buy a valid drivers license? With the amount of corruption that is taking place, i wouldn't want to waste my valuable time standing in any more lines.

www.enatis.com has some good information regarding driver's licenses.

Unfortunately as many people have said the process can take a while (if doing it the legal way!) Service delivery is not in the vocabulary it seems. I say open up privately owned learners testing centers using computer generated questionaires, and let the people get their learners. No need to stand in queues for hours just to make a booking, let alone wait months for you date to write.

My test is on the 17 Oct and im doing code10 in Durban. Is it true that there is a new rule coming that says anyone with a code 10 can't drive a small car?

Any tips guys on the things to do and not to do bcoz Im not going to bribe these people... They should be satisfied with their salaries.

Hello.i am a foreigner using asylum& i want to go and sit for leaners how do i go about it.....Pliz help i am currently in Pretoria

where can I buy amy drivers license in cape town??

plese mail me to k3vin-tenac@hotmail.com
thanx

I'm a South African who has worked in Saudi Arabia for the past 6 years and now that I'm back in South Africa, I want to exchange my licence for a South African one, Can anybody help?
daveinmideast@hotmail.com

Going to buy my licence tomorrow! Had enough of the system.

well im tired of the system its messed up. i went for my drivers after 6 mnths of trien to book wen i finally get there some woman who was a tester failed me for no reason cos she was in a bad mood. great now the driving school says that i should have paid her and R5000 was tha amount how generous do they think i am. guesss to get your license youv got to pay i just wnted it the clean way