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A U.S. congressional investigation team got a rude shock when they checked to see how difficult it is to get a fake driver's license. Not only was it not difficult to obtain a license, in some cases the state DMV officials were quite helpful!

The investigation began in July 2002, when a team from the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of congress, set out to test the system that issues driver licenses. Agents operating undercover in seven states and the District of Columbia, were able to obtain driver's licenses at every agency where they applied. In many cases the identification documents they presented were meant to be clearly fake, but in every case, the agents were able to obtain a license.

What was of particular concern to investigators was that, even though the fake documents were spotted in many of the locations where the agents applied for licenses, the fake paperwork was never confiscated, law enforcement officials were never notified, and in some cases the agents merely left the motor vehicle office, fixed the documents, and re-applied - often on the same day - with success .

Security implications

The findings of the GAO investigators have serious implications for anti-terrorism security measures. In recent years, despite strong protest from civil liberties groups, the issue of a national identity card continues to be raised. However, the specter of individuals being stopped in the street and asked for "their papers," in the style of authoritarian countries raises hackles in the U.S. and other democratic countries. Driver licenses have come to be widely accepted as de facto identity cards, but the ease with which the GAO agents were able to obtain fake licenses will undoubtedly increase demands for national ID cards.

For some, national ID cards would go a long way toward solving the problem of security and terrorism. Oracle CEO, Larry Ellison offered to donate the software needed to create national ID cards soon after the Sept. 11 terrorist attack. However, opponents say such cards would endanger civil liberties and give the federal government too much data about individual citizens and their whereabouts. The American Civil Liberties Union says calls the national ID cars a "misplaced, superficial quick fix."

ID Cards, says the ACLU, would not, for example, have prevented the September 11 attacks, since the attackers had legal documents. Criminals, the ACLU adds, can always get the documents they need. Naitonal ID cards would be expensive to implement and would merely be "a simplistic and naïve attempt to use gee-whiz technology to solve complex social and economic problems."

The main threat of a national ID card, says the ACLU, is that "it would require a governmental database of every person in the U.S. containing continually updated identifying information it would create a system of internal passports that would significantly diminish the freedom and privacy of law-abiding citizens. Once put in place, it is exceedingly unlikely that such a system would be restricted to its original purpose." After all, the ACLU adds, "The original Social Security Act contained strict prohibitions against use of Social Security cards for unrelated purposes, but those strictures have been routinely ignored and steadily abandoned over the past 50 years."

The government of Ireland recently abandoned a proposal for a national identity card. While recognizing the advantages of such a card, Ireland's Data Protection commissioner, Donal Linehan, observed that the cards would pose "very serious privacy implications for everybody."

Nevertheless, there's enormous pressure to introduce the cards. Last year, the British government unveiled a controversial proposal to introduce compulsory identity cards. Home Secretary David Blunkett told Parliament that he envisioned a universal "entitlement" card, for which everyone in Britain would register to gain the right to social services, benefits and employment. Many Britons see the card as a way to control a massive flow of illegal aliens that is costing the country about 2 billion pounds (about US $3.2). Civil liberty advocates see the 'entitlement' label as nothing more than a clever device to get the cards accepted.

Driver license as ID card

Over the years, Driver Licenses have become a sort of de facto ID card, accepted for many identification purposes such as check purchases, travel identification, banking. It comes as a shock to find the system of issuing them so lax.

The shocking thing, according to privacy expert Robert Douglas, is that DMV employees didn't do anything about the forged documents. "That means there is no risk to the person trying to obtain the false drivers license."

Douglas, whose American Privacy Consultants firm advises banks and other financial institutions on identity theft, will be testifying before the Senate hearing on national security, feels that this is a serious risk to security. It means that criminals or terrorists can keep probing at the system until they find a vulnerable area.

In California, which seemed to have the most vulnerabilities, agents managed to complete the process to receive three temporary state drivers licenses within two days, using the same fake information. No one at the DMV noticed that two individuals were simultaneously using the same fictitious name and same fraudulent supporting paperwork, according to the GAO report.End of Article

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fast fish,

Who Is Eddie?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2684895.stm

minder,

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199293/cmhansrd/1993-07-26/Debate-15.html
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minder,

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/misc/print.php?artid=264175

fcuk,

well said, someone is posting here just to wind someone up. Stop reading and go about your biz elsewhere. My dad is bigger than your dad. Black Diamond I can see you are responding to mrhunts post but can't you see he's having you at it, "question marks" "like the riddler" why don't you just say he's grown a beard and label him Bin Laden. I think its way out of line posting all that and the mods here should remove it.

Curious Orange,

Amazon.com was setup by Al Capone and Bugsy Seigel amongst others. In a bid to revolutionise the sales of books, DVDs etc. they set the website up with the help of Jack the Hat McVitie, Arthur Thompson and Charlie Chocolate and the Ooompa Loompas.

Reggie Kray's pet hamster was a regular visitor and I could name-drop for another 10 minutes but I think anyone with an ounce of common-sense can see this whole thing is becoming ridiculous. Please can everyone stop slagging each other, name-dropping like a London taxi driver and talking nonsense. Are there any mods here to cut out this drivel ???

fcuk,

what a load of old bitches you are here, the forum administrator should have better control. Perhaps you should could consider this post's topic "Fake Driving Licences Shocker" what the hell has that got to do with throwing crap take your pathetic e-war outside the arena.

kpna - scum is something that collects around the side of your bath, you want to think about that.............

kpna,

Confidential access are nothing but scum.

They will rip you off and steal your money.

They are frauds.

Jerry,

Got my novelty UK DL from novmaster.com today in the post. Well chuffed - great service.

safety pin,

Yes no doubt ' you heard through the grapevine ' because you ARE them LOL. Ģ180k a month and you STILL find time to come on here every day LMAO.

Btw if you keep coming up with new names and spamming here you will eventually move the threads up about you publishing peoples personal data and stitching other people up ! Either snitches or a sting site.

300,

CA Are Legit Vendors, have been for years and have outdone any other so called site, that pop up for a few months to grab what they can and disappear,,,, CA have and always will be Tops in Novelty Documents.

You Scam them, You'll pay the price

Simple as that.

total chaos,

"if you complain you get your money back a kick up the arse and told where to go" ? Surely this approach won't get you business ?

Can we PLEASE move back to the topic people ? We're looking for legit vendors of DLs.

fast fish,

here, here

Caxess Control,

and you mac need to come and tell it to our faces, its assholes like yourself that do the ripping on our site and expect to get away with it.

mac,

ConfidentialAccess is nothing but a bunch of criminals who think they are bad asses.

They will just rip you off and then tell everyone who you are on there site just to humiliate you.

popeye,

well i think this CA is novmaster if you ask me what a bunch of losers, funny how novmaster are hosting off the same malaysian servers. Use genuine licences people.....

fast fish,

Yeh right really bad puggy, who the hell do you bat for? Do you class yourself under one of these banners. At least they keep their community under manners.

No.1, no member is to advertise, upload posts or photo's or even discuss illegal child porn. If you do, you will be isolated from the community and all your personal details will be passed to the relevant law enforcers. CA do not tolerate anything to do with illegal pornography.

No.2 no member is to advertise or post any subject regarding illegally classed drugs, if you do you will be isolated and suspended from the community and all of your personal details including IP logs will be passed to the relevant law enforcers.


No.3 no member is to advertise any terror related article, subject within the CA private community, CA do not trade with US embargoed Countries. We do not supply any type of document which could be used to facilitate air travel. Any member suspected of supporting or endorsing terror groups will have their personal details passed to the relevant security services.

joyce,

I think everyone should stop slagging off sites here and lets just do something constructive with our time. This isn't achieving anything.

kennyn,

totally agree one hundred percent mate. They've stitched a few up in their time and this keeps them out of the clink to run the site - hence their '5 years' boast. These clowns co-operate with the old bill, people disappear from their forum and they can conveniently say they were 'banned'. Load of old fanny

puggy,

one thing that should be added to this is this they have a 3 nos or some shit like rule which means basically if the police contact them they will grass u up in a second stay well away from ca unless you wanna taste some porridge THEY ARE WRONG UNS

mrhunt,

firstly, one positive thing that can be said about ca is that when you pay you do get your product however whether it has the right details on it who knows,the licences that they offer , welll let me put it this way my mate is serving 18 months for fraud because the licence failed a test at thye bank and the police turned up.The hologram is the wrong colour under uv and dont let no one tell you it dont matter, IT DOES.As for being heavy east end gangsters, behave yourselfs people, i know who own ca and while i agree they aint white collar mongs they aint in the heavy bracket with some other london gangsters.
y opinion, good for utilities (check all details throughly tho) STAY CLEAR OF DVLA they offer.

fast fish,

playing with fire comes to mind

Tim nice-but Dim,

Ooopss! I just read John Jo's link above and its very interesting. Apparently the people involved in this confidential access site are also into those Nigerian scams as well as making idle threats to people. I think people should have a look before parting with their cash.

catchmeifyoucan,

The service from novmaster.com is first class. Any place that can get a license out to me a day after paying gets my vote. I've tried other places and they haven't impressed.

john jo,

Yes confidential access are a great company (he said sarcastically). For those of you one here wanting to pay by credit card they plaster pictures and personal details of people doing chargebacks on their site (claiming that it's fraudulent when it's not)! Feel free to check this.

Also have a read here:
http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/domain-name-scams/8219-there-back.html

3rd rate plastic gangsters if ever there were. I don't know which sites are legit and which are not but unless you are willing to do some serious arse-licking be prepared to have your private details divulged if you complain in the slightest. Or be bombarded by 'we are gonna come round and fix you out' threats.

Pathetic.

fast fish,

novmaster.com shows from June 2007, 20 days history or am i missing something???????????

fast fish,

Yeh top notch company really believe in personal freedom their community is something else. They sort of do everything you can even fake any SMS number you want, way back machine shows theyve been going along time this is how i check sites out for history http://www.archive.org/web/web.php cool archiving centre of websites from birth.

300,

Buygib, I'm with you on this one.

I've been dealing with www.confidentialaccess.com for over 5 years, Best Quality products, Professional Service.

buygib,

Why not just hit www.confidentialaccess.com they're the daddies in anything fake.

george,

Hi all, well got my licence from novmaster today. I must say it looks great, A1. It has all the markings of a real licence. This site can be trusted!!
Thanks novmaster

Attn Rexxus,

After mentioning the site in an enquiry to novmaster they asked me to post the following:

'Rexxus as we said before we bear you absolutely no malice. We do not wish for people to be scammed any more than you do and we are sure that your opinion is valued on drivers.com. In light of this our offer still stands - contact us to set this up.

Unlike most of the sites mentioned on here we can back up everything we claim. You questioned our legitimacy and so we are more than prepared to provide you with proof in the form of a free sample. Offer still stands but please only Rexxus - no impersonators please.'

I think you should take them up on this personally Rexxus. Although I haven't yet ordered they have been nothing but polite and informative in my communication with them. Worth a try.

Joe

Dan,

Rexxus is perfectly entitled to not want to give his personal details to these people. Sure it would be great for everyone if he took up the offer, but its his details at stake.

Rexxus has been a HUGE help here and I think everyone should appreciate what he has done.

yttrilium, if I had the I.T skills I would be right with you. I just make a request that you take out ukfakeid.com!

Rexxus,

I may take up novmaster.coms offer for a free id sample. I looked at there site and they look pretty promising.

I think that they are worth a shot.

www.novmaster.com,

www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site
www.novmaster.com is a legit site

yttrilium,

Is the idea of attacking these server's still open. I am an active member of hitb.org security forum (under a differant alias) and willing to lead an operation on taking these server's down. Those with knowledge of Retina or Nessus, programming in C or VB, and know how to use a proxy! email me. Other' send URL's with your reason why the server should be taken down.

My aim is to gather together a team of people who are intelligable to take down sites scamming people. Even the fools who apply for Fake ID's do not deserve to be scammed.

yttrilium@gmail.com

Neals Boyfriend,

www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off
www.novmaster.com is an authorized rip-off

Neal,

Just shut up already.

Let people find out on there own if it is a scam or not.

I don't want to hear another word about www.novmaster.com

Crankster,

Al Bundyīs comments has no value ie. pure BS since he most likely is working for www.novmaster.com.

This thread seems to be a mix of people who have been ripped off by various sites and people who are defending the very same sites without any proof whatsoever.

999,

I strongly advice you NOT to buy any "novelty dl/id etc" if you reside in UK or the US. Many of these services are under investigation. You have been warned!

Maggie B,

Hi Lilly,

That's totally fine -everyone is entitled to their opinion. I got what I required and only posted to try and help others but I'll let them make up their own minds.

I can't obviously go into fine detail but I merely paid cash in at the Post Office for my order and everything went fine from there.

Each to their own.

Al Bundy,

novmaster.com offered to send a free sample to that rexxus idiot, but rexxus declined,

scam sites dont offer to send samples,

novmaster and phatism are both legit

but go ahead and keep saying they are a scam and I will keep coming back here and keep making you look stupid.

Al Bundy,

noveltyid.us is a scam, not a sting op, retard that posted a sting operation

phatism.com is legit

novmaster.com is legit

move on with your lives

Lilly,

thank you for your reply. i however think you work for www.novmaster.com if you read the posts here, all providers just wants to take your money.

Please state the address you sent the payment to and how.

Maggie B,

Hi,

Sorry for the delay but been unable to get web access for few days.

I received my novelty license from novmaster.com and after spotting a misp-print (my date of birth had one digit wrong) I contacted them that morning. Within approx. 4-5 hours I was issued with another tracking number (Royal Mail Special Delivery) and the corrected item arrived before 1PM the next day ! This is most certainly not a hoax in my opinion and the quality is superb. Also fast reply to emails and very good customer relations for such an 'underground' product. Very highly recommended.

MRB,

Simon

"But to all you people, it is NOT ILLEGAL to own a novelty id card"

If you get busted, refer to "Simon"
-How can you say that for sure? Illegal where? Canada? Spain? Nonsense!

Lilly,

not a word from MaggieB in spite she promised post the result. i think she is connected to www.novmaster.com which appears to be a hoax.

this forum seems to be a marketing place for people working for various sites offering idīs/dlīs etc ) : and no one is to be trusted

MRB,

www.noveltyid.us - Stay away - STING OPERATION!

This is NOT a safe site.

Simon,

Is this really the way they have stooped to tracking criminals. Cannot believe they set up this site to track who wants to buy a fake id or driver license. I too bought from www.noveltyid.us and they make good stuff

But to all you people, it is NOT ILLEGAL to own a novelty id card

Simon

Darren,

Just got my cards from www.noveltyid.us they made me an awesome novelty certificate. Oh and it looks so real. Andy bye the way, if this is an fbi tracing site, just wanna let you feds know I am only using it for my own ego to display at my home, so my releatives think i am smart. So f#@*& you for tracking this site

george,

Hi all, well I sent info to novmaster on thursday. I now have a tracking number on item. Let you`s know what happen in next few days.

stella,

a reputable business do offer card payments.

fraudeters dont īcos you can request a chargeback if the not deliver.

Amy,

Hay,
does anyone know if http://www.souvenirids.co.uk/ is a scam. and does anyone know anyother ones that do Western Australians ids

Vol,

hi,

just to let u know www.foolthem.com is a scam, ordered from them 4 weeks ago and nothing so far. They do not reply to your email or nothing at all.

Luckely it was a credit card payment

Attn Rexxuss,

We still stand by our offer to despatch a sample to you free of charge. If you wish to take this up then just contact us.

You have challenged our integrity but seem unwilling to give us the chance to prove our legitimacy. Our feedback from customers will speak for itself.

george,

Hi, contacted novmaster. They email me back no problem. I will let you know what happens in the next few day`s.

clyde,

Rexxus, We all know that most sites are scams out there, however www.novmaster.com offered to send you a sample in the mail,

honestly how many fake id sites will send a sample in the mail? NONE!

I think www.novmaster.com 's offer to send you a sample shows there legitimacy. Let them be on this one, they are working for us the customers unlike those sleezy scammers out there.

george,

Hi, all if YOU DONT MIND. I will try out novmaster. I will email them tonight. And let yous all know what happens in the next day or two. Fingers crossed.

Gerri,

Just returned home and post has been. I too would now recommend novmaster.com as I now have a great looking fake DL ! Looks just like a real one. Using it just to fool friends etc. but very very happy with it.

Rexxuss after reading the posts why on earth wouldn't you accept a free sample from them ??? Wish they had offered it to me!

Rexxus,

Not for a second as stupid as you sending cash to a one week old web site located in Panama. But of course, they have email, right?!

I understand my opinons not is wanted and I will no longer post or visit this site no more.

Happy novelty driving!

Tim,

Hmmm...Rexxuss don't you feel a tad stupid that these people offered proof they are legit and you have publicly knocked it back ? I'm quite surprised by this to be honest as I'm sure others here will be.

I'm going to give them a try. If we keep listening to you then no-one here will ever get a novelty DL.

Rexxus,

Att: www.novmaster.com

"Hi, after hearing from a client that our name is being trashed" What a coincidence! "Maggie B", how's that PS3 working? ( ;

Your web site carry all the characteristics of scam site and in spite of that, you demand to be treated like a serious business?! Come on!

You MAY deliver and MAY be real in opposite of the other proven SCAM sites. Apart from various comments from people in this thread, you can check http://www.complaintsboard.com/ for more stories. There is NOTHING that differs your web site from Eupermis.com and it's clones.

Do understand your web site carry all the classic red flags that would prevent me from placing an order with you like:

- Advance payment ( of course ) and NOT with credit card.
- No phone number
- No fax number
- Not even MSN or Skype
- No (physical ) address
- No company name or number

Just a web site registered in Panama(!) created 05-Jun-2007(!) and an email address. If you are dressed as a crook expect to be treated like one. If you are for real and serious, fix the above stated things or expect to be labelled as a scam.

When running a business like you, to have to ask yourself - would I buy from myself? Why should anyone trust YOU and sending their money in advance without any chance to recover them? Would you?
As you say "why not resolve this?"

Thank you for your noble offer but I do have a valid DL and prefer not to give any personal details to you.

Clyde: Send your cash and cross your fingers for a delivery.

johnstone,

Here here,

Rexxuss if these people are offering to send you a sample why not take up the offer and then you can post back here and let us know how it goes ?

I also appreciate you trying to protect everyone's interests on here but do we really want to chase away the only non-scam site here?

clyde,

Although I do know that rexxus has been right about the scam sites that he has debunked (I verified them as scams also), we all will have to wait and see the outcome of www.novmaster.com

Novmaster has not been around long enough to have a track record of good or bad, so we shall see as time passes.

Rexxus, from here on out do not post anything negative about novmaster.com

They in fact may be very well legit, and if they are legit than people need to know so we can order from them,

message for rexxuss,

Hi, after hearing from a client that our name is being trashed on here by the resident Mr Know-it-all - Rexxus (who knows everything except where anyone can actually GET a novelty driving license), we're here to put matters straight.

Instead of screaming SCAM at every post here (and by the way we know for a fact some of the posts here are from genuine customers), why not resolve this ?

Challenge to Rexxus: Contact us and we will despatch a sample of our product (to you and you only) completely free of charge.Do scam sites offer this ??? We think not.

Put your money where your mouth is please or shut up.
www.novmaster.com

george,

thanks Rexxus.Keep up the good work

Rexxus,

List of SCAM promotors in this forum posing as happy customers etc:

Maggie B
Simon
Sarah
f4x4tera / Captain Klovinov SCIC
pete l

Rexxus,

Daniel Fesser,

Thanks for the info. Of course they are a SCAM. You may check here:

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/31/page/32

Maggie B - Is of course another SCAM PROMOTOR! ! The ususal BS " I got my DL..blah.." Pure lies!

People like "Maggie B" use to post once or maybe twice and the silence because they can not provide any proof. Instead they athey use nonsense arguments. Maggie, what about this PS3-link? LOL!

daniel fesser,

noveltyidforum.org is a scam
camouflagids.com is a scam
all the trusted vendors on noveltyidforum.org are scammers

THEY REFUSE TO MAIL ANYONE A SAMPLE OF THEIR WORK. SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

remember the old phonyid.com and fakeidman.net scam? Well the people that ran that scam are doing it again, but this time the players are noveltyidforum.org and camouflagids.com.

the sites below are also scams

http://www.fakeidcenter.com/fakeids.html
http://www.theidshop.com/
http://www.fastids.com/
http://www.uknoveltyid.bravehost.com/
http://www.underground-review.com/F_ID.html

daniel fesser,

noveltyidfroum.org is a scam
camouflagids.com is a scam
all the trusted vendors on noveltyidforum.org are scammers

THEY REFUSE TO MAIL ANYONE A SAMPLE OF THEIR WORK. SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM

remember the old phonyid.com and fakeidman.net scam? Well the people that ran that scam are doing it again, but this time the players are noveltyidforum.org and camouflagids.com.

the sites below are also scams

http://www.fakeidcenter.com/fakeids.html
http://www.theidshop.com/
http://www.fastids.com/
http://www.uknoveltyid.bravehost.com/
http://www.underground-review.com/F_ID.html

jeffro,

quite confused by all the talk on here. i wanna buy uk dl. had used foolthem before but no answer from email in over 2 weeks and people now saying scam. checked out novmaster and didn't look too bad but has anyone here sent cash to them and NOT received their dl ?

thx

george,

Duron, cant see the clue you talk about in other post

Rexxus,

June B,

- Your friend tells you they are for real - They happens to have the very same adress as a pub i Glasgow(!).
- The ask for payment in advance.

All in all, it seems very reliable, donīt you think so? ( ;

Rexxus,

Maggie B,

"Guess what people I just ordered a PS3 for my son from a webiste and they wanted PAYMENT IN ADVANCE"

I look forward to the URL of this web shop asking for cash in an envelope/postal check /Western Union before they send your PS3.

alec albion,

i looked in novmasters site and on the order form they ask 4 ur surname and then ur last name! also the address given is 4 my local pub,the albion way, 179 broomloan rd glasgow, seems strange june b to me, but hey guys pls enlighten us

june b,

a friend tells me novmaster are for real, can anyone back this up ? i understand that u would not want to provide too many contact details, ie authorities etc but.....im not sure and its not Ģ25 were talkin about...

Rexxus,

Duron,

Fair enough even though Euepermis is a proven scam. I however fail to find any postings in this thread by "Duron" so what is your purpose?

Right?! Have you heard of free speach? Well, give me the URL and I will give my opinon. Otherwise your comment is of no value.

Duron,

once again Rexxus don't assume that im talking about euepermis because im not. look at my past post for an idea of the site im talking about. and unless you've used them and they failed you you have no right to trash them.

Rexxus,

You are most welcome!

"Only trying to share my own experiences here or is that not allowed" Yeah, right! Keep on promoting!

Again, It very strange how various people feel forced to inform other "I got my Polish / UK DL or whatever card" without providing any proof whatsoever.

Regardless the fact you state you were scammed by Eupermis it did not stop you to send your cash to another web site with a email address as only contact option.

The site you are promoting is plastered with red flags all over, it smells SCAM all the way! Do your homework on safe shopping.

Payment in advance by CREDIT CARD is fine but sending cash /postal check / Western Union to a web site is no reliable solution for a serious business. Keep that in mind.

Maggie B,

Well thanks for the torren of abuse Rexxus!For your information I received my card 3 days after ordering and comparing it to my husbands it looks perfect so very happy with it.

Given the nature of the product we are talking about I really dont' think the company are going to be registered and to be honest I think I've been scammed more over the phone by websites than by email. Honestly if this was more above board then we would all be able to order them from Argos LOL.

I think that by discounting every entry on this thread you are actually doing people here a disservice - some people do actually want to buy one of these. Only trying to share my own experiences here or is that not allowed ? I won't mention the name of the site again anyway as obviously I too am a scammer.

Guess what people I just ordered a PS3 for my son from a webiste and they wanted PAYMENT IN ADVANCE (shock, horror!). That's the way the world tends to work I'm afraid. I've been stung more than most people so I despise these scammers but bear this in mind. Here in UK a few months back was a documentary where the journalist had obtained copies of a UK driving license. So if there are in fact no suppliers of these where did he get them ? Did he make them himself ?

Rexxus,

www.uwantid.com is a RIP OFF!

And as usual - PAYMENT IN ADVANCE!

Rexxus,

Maggie B is a liar and
another SCAM PROMOTOR.

-No company name
-No company reg. no.
-No address whatsoever
-No phone no.
-No fax no.
-No card payment

And as usual - only email as contact and of course PAYMENT IN ADVANCE!

STAY AWAY FROM THESES SCAMMERS!

george,

Hi, MaggieB.
NO luck with post yet?????????

michael,

Any site that claims to run a forum is a scam, I got taken by a site that was a "forum" but it was really just a bunch of bogus reviews so that people would believe them and buy ids.

I got scammed by that fraudulent forum. It was just scammers writing the posts.

Sian,

Anyone know if www.uwantid.com is any good, or just another rip off?? I need one cos i'm going on holiday to america and i'm 20, but obviously you have 2 be 21 to drink over there!

george,

thanks for reply. I will wait and see how you do. Good luck!!!!!!

MaggieB,

I was also scammed by eupermis so you guys have my sympathy. However, I was recommended to contact novmaster.com which is a new site. I sent off details, sent payment and now(the next day) I have a tracking number for the package !

I'll post back here and let you all know of quality etc. Hopefully its not an empty package as I really am counting on this !

george,

Rexxus, hi got caught out twice! 1 st eupermis then excodus2002. They are making a packet of me. Is there nobody I can trust?????????/

Rexxus,

Duron,

"i think that site is way to precious to let the authorities close it"

Yeah, I bet you do! But I trust there are other people who disagree!

Happy driving!

MIKE,

EUPERMIS WEB SITE GONE. I SUPPOSE IT WILL APPEAR WITHIN SOON WITH A NEW NAME. WATCH OUT.

Rexxus,

Yo Duron,

I pass any judgement I want and I know a SCAM site when I see one.

If you are refering to the SCAM site euepermis com or/ands itīs cloes you are lying! Itīs funny that "customers" of the various SCAM-SITES feel that they have to argue about their sweet deal instead of using their brand new licence! Get in you car Mr SCAM PROMOTOR.

Duron,

yo Rexxus i did get my uk DL in under a week need more details email me because i think that site is way to precious to let the authorities close it. but dude seriously u cudnt possibly have tried all these sites so dont pass judgement on wat u aint sure about.

lowblow,

I lost money trying to get a DL...Can anyone tell me if idcards4u can be trusted? I can't take the chance again on being scammed...PLEASE can anyone help me?

Rexxus,

Will,

agecards.com - SCAM! "We accept Cash, Cheques and Postal Orders. "

NEVER EVER PAY IN ADVANCE EXCEPT WITH A CREDIT CARD.

Do not trust ANY person in this forum saying " I got my DL whatever card in two weeks etc".

Rexxus,

Ian,

I am sorry to hear you have been ripped off. And no, I do have a valid DL and have not experienced problem with any scam sites.

Please understand that the SCAMMERS from EU-docs and other SCAM sites ( "Simon", "Captain Klovinov", "Lisa" and itīs clones most likely are reading these posts, including this.

Harry Flashman is a fake name. I suggest you contact the HQ of the Raffeisen Bank bank in Austria and inform them that their fellows Budapest is keeping fake accounts holding money from SCAM SITES.

You may also contact the fraud dept at Google and inform them they do list these sites. Good luck!

Alicat,

Well, folks, uepermis com isn't coming up with the goods. IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PURCHASING A LICENCE ONLINE, FOR GOD'S SAKE: CHECK THE WEBSITE YOU HAVE FOUND WITH THE OTHER, BLACKLISTED ONES, BECAUSE U WILL FIND THAT THE SAME SITE WILL CHANGE ITS NAME EVERY FEW WEEKS TO AVOID DETECTION. WATCH OUT. IT'S DOG EATS DOG OUT THERE.

alex,

does anyone no if iwantid.com is a scam because i have just sent my money and photo and dont think they are going 2 return anything 2 me plz will someone let me no if they can thanx

will,

REXXUS,

when you talked about agecards.com and warren mackenzie did you say they are a scam or legit. cheers

sorry for people,

listen i sure wish all of you luck, my hubby is in cituation where we was rooked into a 3rd an 4th dui. we were not married at the time now 17 yrs later he cant get a dl due to florida,s bs. he has not drank in 17 yrs, its taught him that this world does not forgive or forget. this world is not GOD. if one has changed their life style for the better they should be able to have a fresh start in driving. dont listen or try to et fake licences. it will haunt you in the long run. turn to GOD an try to get a judge to expunge your past driving record. any thing else will soon catch up with you in the long run. GOD be with each of you an remember this world is of evil. the LORD is coming soon to remove his children!!

PM,

ed the person who came in to your bank may have moved from florida to philidelphia and not changed his address

rob,

i live in london , if anyone know better please do let me know on robb10000@yahoo.co.uk thanks in advance .

rob,

http://www.photo-id.co.uk/

U can be sure that you will receive your id with this website , u ca pay by credit card but they dont do DL .

george,

any one tried idcards4u ???????/

Lisas Mom,

CA,

But they sure want advance payments by like all the rip off sites:

7) Pop the lot in an envelope, along with your Cheques / Cash / Postal orders

Another SCAM! Forget it.

CA,

Heyy all thanks for the great advice on here. aka cathing out the dirty scammers!!
I'm looking for a fake licence or just really a fake card for my holidays this summer for getting in clubs in Ohio.As the age i believe is 19...which i will soon be- but not soon enough!I found imitation Irish Id's on www.fakecard.co.uk
they don't want advanced payments or payment by western union... so does anybody know if i can trust them?
I need it for a just over month away so any help would be greatly appreciated!Thanks

Lisas Mom,

ukfakeid.com for those of you who wants to get ripped off.

"We accept payment through Western Union"
- NO SHIT!

lisa,

ukfakeid.com for drivers licences - with dvla holograms etc
x

Blaster,

Alert!

http://www.e38.biz/ is of course a RIP-OFF and SACM Business with a damm childish ugly web page!

TinaM,

Thank you, Bru!

Bru,

noveltyidforum.org

Looks pretty promising I think. I found a link to the same but .com and it took me here. I guess they just moved offshore, but I was in there talking to a whole bunch of new people last night and had a ball. Just a share. Worth a look.

Bru

Dorky,

Yeah, right Loretta!!!

Loretta,

Hello,

I reside in Paris with my two ogs-
I can offer any licence, ID even CIA and FBI licence you want at 50 % of all other prices offered at this forum. Of course this is not a scam. Payment in advance by WE - the most reliable payment solution in the world.

Dont hesistate - send me your money.

licence-on-line@hotmail.com

angelica,

HI EVERYONE, I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN, LOS ANGELES AND MY HUSBAND CAN GET YOU A NICE CALIFORNIA ID OR DL.

I`M NOT A SCAM, I`M JUST A MAID WHO`S TRYIN TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

EMAIL ME AT cleanfor@hotmail.com

Rexxus,

If you have any questions or concerns about various web sites offering passports, dlīs etc, post your question at http://www.kycnews.com/message_board.asp

Perhaps Captain Klovinov could try his luck there and what you get? Donīt think so.

Rexxus,

Captain Klovinov NKVD,

And rest assured I will continue watching YOU and other scam promotors. The site you are promoting are plastered with red flags and is of course a SCAM. Itīs funny how "clients" of various SCAM sites, feel they need to post on various forums how happy they are with their purchase and blah blah. Pay russians in advance with WE for fake passports, DL - yeah right! And as you are such dedicated customer, you will of course argue you liar! And to you other people - take you money and run from KGB!

f4x4tera,

sorry rexxus.
i didnt say that but it seems like people like your self.
makes my job a little harder to doo.
we all know about scams.
but some people happen to test such scams trace a paper trail if any.
electronic tagging black tracing and sat tracking.
to at least stop such people but no we get the common person giving us a harder times.
well all i can say is if you paid got no return then tuff.
stop taking the easy root an take the bloody test like normal people.
"O" sorry did that hurt .
tuff.....
you know every time we shut em down within the hour there back up there taking ya money.
you stupid stiff's never learn..
Well bye for now.
iLL be watching YOU .

Captain Klovinov SCIC

Rexxus,

f4x4tera,

So you suggest people shoud pay in advance by using Western Union buying Russian DL`s! How can it possible look any wordse?!

But of course, like any other scam promoter, you feel you have to inform everybode elses what a sweet deal you made. www.e38.biz if of course SCAM.

f4x4tera,

sorry i ment to say they just don,t do russian they do others as well hell the'l make you a real cop for the right price....
go to the site click english version unless you can read russian because there is more on the russian site then the english one .
i got mine exchange it to a french dl then came back to england and exchanged here for a full english one .
mind you ive herd some here has friend at swansea dvla and for a price will sort the dirty deal for real....

f4x4tera,

hi guy's and dolls.
well this site is for real.
and yes i paid through western but with a good return i bought i legit russian licence, which i checked to be legal buy ringing the local office were my licence came from.
www.e38.biz .
and i too lost money with genuine doc's my ass genuine bloody scammer's.
now ive bought several things of these people and iv found to be very good.
i bought the full new life pack passport dl id uni degree phd they just do russian

Tymm,

NO the Law was changed about 6 months ago I was living in Tenerife and it was all over the radio about it

Hash,

I just wanted to know is there any law that any spanish tryin to change his UK licence dont need to give or show licence to authorities????

Vader,

getalicene com is of course a scam!

Rexxus,

Nice try to use my nick to support the FAKE SITE eupermit.com. "My mate got his..blah or my friend got his Polish/Hungarian etc in two/three weeks.

Again, ALL web sites offering DLīs regardless of their namesare pure SCAM!

Rexxus,

Ok I take it all back, eupermit is genuine after all! My mate just got his. GO EU PERMIT GUYS!!!! YEEHAA WAY TO GO MAN!!!

LUKE786,

JOSH, NO ITS FAKE SITE RIP OFF CON ARTIST BEWARE DONT BOTHER

Josh,

is eupermit.com LEGAL site?

luke786,

Hi thanks to all of ya i just saved myself, if they are genuine why do they sites keep closing and they keep reopening by a diffrent name now is known as uepermis before getalicence and plenty other names also what they say seems genuine any innocent would believe them, but beware they are fraud i just spoke to a friend he has waited 2 months they reply you first because they want the money once they got the money they dont wanna know the bastards they have they pictures too i would fly out to budapest and batter the shit out of em dont be a fool and give away your hard earned Ģ300 away unless you doing vat fraud

UK ID CARDS,

We can provide you with VALID UK DRIVING LICENCE AND COUNTERPART OR EU DRIVING LICENCE EVEN INTERNATIONAL ONES.....WE ALSO DEAL WITH FAKE ID`s FOR ALMOST ALL COUNTRIES and payment is through legit way PAYPAL CREDIT CARDS BANK TRANSFERS everything is acceptable,not like other scamming sites.if anyone of you are interested just email idcards4u@hotmail.com we can guarentee you that you will recieve driving licence.Cheers!

Tymm,

I paid over 4 months ago a still nothing getalicence.com paid by bank transfer anyone now if or how I can get my money back and how can we shut them down I made another application to getalicence.com and they took it but I didnīt pay
cheers

chad,

Looking for a fake DL in michigan

Rexxus,

Simon,

You are a scammer yourself!

on Monday, 06. November 2006 at 04:44 PM

"your full of it, euautodocs.com isnt fake...blah blah!

Simon,

Is fluxcard a scam? as I havnt recieved my id yet and I sent away for it a week ago.Their tracking order doesnt work and neither does their email.

Nick,

Add EuPermis.com to the list. They are the same thieves under a different name.

Rexxus,

Rocky,

Request a chargeback if you paid with card.

Rocky,

jimmy uk
i tried www.foolthem rip u off i ordered dvla its been 20 days i gt nothing .....please ppl dont try please keep us updated if you find any valid site....

Rexxus,

katie x,

plz try amazon.com

katie x,

iz der any site dat actually sends the id u order?

jimmy uk,

and on the driving licences they do have the DVLA logo and the DVLA hologram on it !!! and the same with the passport !!! check out the guys in spain who got caught with fake dl in TONY BLAIRS NAME and his picture !! it was in the papers one or two years ago !!! they are good !!
but remember it is a fake so it aint registered !!

jimmy uk,

if u want passport or driving licence or degrees GCSE diplomas etc.........then visit www.foolthem.com

they are not a rip off and they warn of the one that do !! including the ones that you lot have mentioned !!

e mail me at schtichman@hotmail.com
and let me know if you visited the site....tell me wat you think and if you buy tell me how long it took you to get it or if you didnt !!! and be patient !! think about it !! if we can get it then we can sell it to others who dont have the info for double the price !!if not triple or quadruple !!!
hope my spelling`s correct !!

Hash,

So is there any site that give fake ID not the realone?>??

Rexxus,

Dan,

Sorry to hear.
Most likely the name "Vassilis Balodimos" a made up name. Again, no serious business uses Western Union and never never ever pay in advance.

Dan,

Alex you amazing man!

I got scammed by ukfakeid last year. I am seriously tempted to fly over to Greece and hurt the man. Could double it up as a holiday.

Marco,

They have a new website...

WWW.EUPERMIS.COM

exactly the same as the others.

i was about to send my money... glad I didnt do it!!!!!!!!!
They have my photo and signature... is it bad?

Alex,

Hi,

Heres some info about the guy. ill try keep getting more for you guys

Fax: +1.6613102107

8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd
Westchester, CA 90045
US

Rexxus,

Faker,

Off topic.

Doug,

Sounds like the lesson to be learned from Thomas is that even if you pay a huge amount of money to get a fake license, breaking the law, in most cases the very first time you use the fake ID, it will be confiscated. Or worse if it is a police officer.

Why waste your time and money? Driving, or going to clubs, is not all that much fun anyway. After you have been to a dance club 100 times you will be so bored with it that you will wonder why you thought it was so important!!

Faker,

Morons! Do you not know the old saying that con artists cannot con honest people?

Duh! So here you all are trying to do something illegal, WHINING about the fact that someone else did something illegal to you and stole your money.

Stupid suckers. You deserve it.

Virtually all fake ID places steal your money.

Do you not think the police authorities can just track them down and shut them down constantly?

Whine away about your lost money, suckers!

Thomas(READ THIS),

Whats up everyone?? Just thought id let you in on a story,Im from Indiana,im 28,,i was 17 when i got my first fake id,,it was from st louis. i drove 4 hours,for a fake,used my dads info,he was 40 something at the time,in st louis,it was in the ghetto,,all i had to do was show them proof of NAME,and address,i just remembered a addy in town,a zip,and it was that easy,got it taken away on the way home from CEDER POINT..i was speeding,77 in a 55,,the fake was in the back pocket,dont ask why?? he asked what it was i said FAKE ID,he said who is terry i said my dad,,lol,,,he said does he know about this,,he kept it,,gave me a speeding ticket,,and i was on my way,,,no more fake,OK,,fake #2,,this one is funny,my buddy and i was working with this dude named Henry a black dude,,im white by the way,but we both used his info,,and took it into the DMV,,and different ones ofcourse,easy,they take my picture,,im white,,but the name,,and info was a black dude,,this was a REAL DL,,the st, louis was a ID CARD,but anyways,,was on the way to the clubs,was showing the bouncer my FAKE,but im a dumbass,had my real ID,,undernieth the fake,,he saw it somehow,said see that guy in the cop car,i said ya,he said you wanna be in there with him,i said no,he said i suggest you turn around and leave,,so i did,got off again,ok 3rd fake,i was 19 or 20 at this time,,got another buddies info took it into the DMV,,same thing,his info my picture..was so used to being 21 at this point it didnt even come to me,,so one day we were going to the LIQ to get something,i was with someone actualy 21,,but i went in with him,the lady didnt even ask for my id,but me being me,i flashed it,on the way out,,,SOME EXCISE POLICE stopped us,ask us both for ids,asked my buddy questions,,they let him go into the car,they got to my id,IM 5'9 br hair br eyes,my id said,6'1 green eyes,,lol,but i got passed that part by bullshittin,they even went and asked my buddy what my name was,,he knew what to say,,then they asked 1 last question,Where did you get your ID?? well in indiana,there are 3 numbers on the old ids that tells them where the id came from,I HAD NO CLUE,,where i got it,,hell i had been to like 8 diff DMV's in the past 3 years ,,being my ids,,or gettin fakes, got 3 tickets,had to go to court,,paid a lawyer like 500.00 and the judge said no trouble until your 21,,so i had like 6 months till 21.even when i turned 21,,until i was like 24 or 25 i still felt like i was showing a fake,,its not even worth it,wait till your 21,,plus i drank like a fish then,it kinda took out all the fun when i actualy did turn 21.,,but i guess it was also fun too,,do what you like,,but i know now days,,you cant do it,,just use someones that you look like,,,thats all you can do,,other that that you'll get caught somehow,,i just learned this also,,check this out...http://www.highprogrammer.com/alan/numbers/dl_us_shared.html

mark,

Hey, the Dude from L.A. that say,s he know,s someone in downtown that can hook you up with a fake, give some way to see the work he does,with out risk of the Fed A whole's tracking anyone down,I live accross the U.S. I wish I saw this before I moved away from Cal.it would have been easier, then again this could be a Fed

Rexxus,

Mike,

"drinking and driving" is a very bad combination. Ask your friends to buy you a beer!

MIke,

Hey,

Heres the situation: I'm 19 (almost 20) and British. So have been legally drinking and driving for a few years now.

However, me and my mates are going on a road trip in the USA this summer. We are nto quite 21 (my eldest mate is 21 in sep). We can handle are drink etc etc so it's very frustrating that we can't drink over there...

So, i'm looking for a fake, accurate uk driving license, as mine states my real age of 19. I need to bump it up a year so i can drink with my mates in the USA this summer...

Anyone know where to go cus it's scam central out there...

mark,

Hello freinds
after reading all the messages,I;m very afraid,I'm in the U.S.and will accept all sypathy,ha!home land security has kept me from abtaining a license because of somthing that happened in 1979,all the computers linked up,to tell every state that I didnt take care of somthing,and now it's in the thousand,s with gaining value,I paid my reintatment fee and before I knew I could't get one in the state I live in now,which I left with a good record,I need to obtain a fake I.d.that wont rip me off,any advise would be extremly welcome.

greg,

wantt to buy a driver licienc

Ryan,

Ok, thank you.

Rexxus,

Ryan,

There is most likely no web site which are able to assist you getting a DL. The ones mentioned in this thread are all SCAMS.

Ryan,

Sorry for second post, i forgot to mention the ID i'm asking help for is, the UK Driving Licence, Thank you again.

Ryan,

Hey, thanks for all the information you have given it has been a big help.. and although the information is a big help, there has not been a website with positive feedback mentioned. Is this because there are none? Or is there just not one mentioned?
Thanks for your help.

steph,

heya i was just wondering if anyone knew if www.fluxcard.com is reliable?
thanks

justpatti,

Well I still haven't gotten ANY answers on a trusted site to obtain a DL. Doesn't ANYONE have a safe site that I can go too? THERE HAS to be at least ONE OUT THERE. HELP!

SIM,

WELL SAID REXXUS! IT"S A SCAM SITE SAME AS THE REST. I WASTED EURO450 TO THEM AT EUROPEANDL COM. SO BEWARE!!!!!!!!!

Rexxus,

Why donīt YOU post any proof that the scam site eusprung.com NOT is a scam? But of course, it is just a coincidence the site a clone of europeandl com, euautodocs com or getalicence com

Jays Mother,

Jay,

Why should any person try convince you since you already spent your 299 so well?!

"I am not sure they are scammers"..yeah right! We will not be surprised to hear from you later stating" I got my DL and it Hungarian/Polish whatever.

Jay,

can someone email me with proof that eusprung.com is a load of rubbish?? I am aware of the legal loophole they speak of, but not sure if they are scammers or not. If they're not it'd be 299 well spent!!

jaycarroll@hotmail.com

Leanne,

hey does anyone know of any sites which sell decent looking fake driving licences which aren't scam sites?as i'm finding it very hard to get in to bars as i'm 17!

ant b,

shit ....... to late i sent my money a week ago to genuine documents.com. and only just read this forum. im well gutted. bank says its to late. my own fault should of done it the proper way.

liam,

phatism is real, received my card today.

SIM,

EMM, I think you better take Rexxus advise and stop the transfer before your good money goes to waste. I had posted some warnings above some months back with rgds to ripoff site at europeandl com If you look closely at both sites, europeandl com and genuinedocuments com, you will find both sides are similar. SO BETTER STOP THE MONEY TRANSFER ASAP!

Good luck EMM...

Rexxus,

Emm,

If you have read this thread you do not seem to care much for your money as you will be ripped off for sure. Try to cancel the transfer ASAP.

genuinedocuments.com is of course a scam

adam,

hi, i was thinking about using genuinedocuments but have seen this site, anyway is there a way to do what they were going to do but do it myself?

thanks

Emm,

I have just sent my money to genuinedocuments.com for an EU license any information?

willy,

i am going to pay by credit card but am worried they could hack my account later on and do some sort of fraud on me, is paying by credit card on their site safe to use for buying fake ID from phatism.com?

eros,

rexxus r u from the uk?

justpatti,

Does anyone know if the site free2drivenow@walla.com is a safe site?
I am desperate to get a DL and will "try" anything. PLEASE HELP!

justpatti,

I will pay top US Dollars for a fake IL DL. can anyone help me?

Rexxus,

Talk with your bank/card issuer and ask them to withdraw the amount if they have failed to deliver.

mike,

how do you request a chargeback if they dont deliver? I have a visa electron.

Rexxus,

As long as you pay with credit card, you can always request a chargeback if they not deliver.

That is why Scum-Simon and his pals never accept cards. Neither does of course any card merchant trust their "business".

www.foolthem.com do not produce real documents, (which they also state)
so guess canīt be ripped of as long as you use your credit card.

Damn Simon,

How about www.foolthem.com and drivinglicences.com? Scam or not? Anyone tried it?

neill,

is fluxcard and phatism a scam?

Rexxus,

Here we go again. "Simon" and his scum friends is trying again to rip off people.

Wherever you see their banners or ads, immdeiately contact the serch enginge etc and inform them the are promoting SCAMMERS!

Derek,

These scamming scum bags have opened a new site.

www.genuinedocuments.com

Exact same design so it is them.

Please post any information anyone knows about these scammers so they can be located and eliminated.

lisa,

dont look like nothing is promise what we need is a real ligit license not no fake to go to jail need someone who works inside the dmv to make us real icense i'm not going to jail over no fake i will just have to pay and take the real test and if you all was smart like me you would want real real real no fake proven data

eros,

alot of the uk sites seem to be legit, but alot of the american ones ask you to pay by Western Union, which is VERY VERY risky. never try and pay through western union!
Olivia you should look for 'novelty' fake id's because these are not actually copies of real driving licenses.
do a search for 'fake id's' in google is your best bet and just have a look and if you've got common sense make your own mind up.

Rexxus,

Olivia,

Never pay in advance either by cash or check, Western Union etc. This is big red flag and you have no chance to get your money back. If they do not accept cards - forget them. Apart from that, I do think it is pretty smart buying fake IDīs in the US these days.

Olivia,

Sorry for additional post. So basically I am looking for companies which have an address and phone where I can send international money order or check to? And sites that say something about "novelty id's"?

Some of the sites I seen insisted on international money order and sending it via global priority mail (i'm in usa). Chances are sites such as these are a better gamble than the others correct?

Olivia,

What about these sites below. I did a little research trying to find a place where I can get a fake id and social security because I plan to live underground due to domestic violence issues. Please if you have any comments or tips I would appreciate it dearly

http://www.fakeidcenter.com/fakeids.html
http://www.theidshop.com/
http://www.fastids.com/
http://www.uknoveltyid.bravehost.com/
http://www.underground-review.com/F_ID.html

Rexxus,

I would never trust Fakeidland.com

No:

- Company name
- No physical address ( PO Box )
- No phone
- No fax

and the WORST - advance payment by check. Take you money and run.

euautodocs.com is a pure SCAM!

NEVER EVER PAY IN ADVANCE!

Fredrik,

If anyone has any information about euautodocs.com please contact me. pixtrip@gmail.com

Anon,

Royal Mail are theiving Bastards!!!

John,

Cheers m8
i sent off 30 quid a few weeks ago... Still hoping i get them. They seem to be replying to my emails though which is promising. I sent money in the post though and you never can be sure with Royal Mail...lol. I'll tell you if i ever get them :)

eros,

it looks pretty real m8, and if you're paying by cheque then you know the address of the person you are buying off of. the ones which are real are the people who offer 'nobelty' id's, which means they r not like a real one.
it looks overall pretty promising but you'll have to make ur own decision

John,

Is Fakeidland.com a scam???
Please Reply

Salina,

I'm from Western Australia and I was wondering u can get a fake drivers' licenses...

eros,

im a person who doesnt want one to drive, just to get into pubs and clubs because i am one year too young!! im 17 if anyone knows a good site or email address of someone who can get one please leave a message on here. thanks

Jason,

i need a website that can give me a good fake driving liences that i can get.

Rexxus,

Simon,

Assuming you are the Simon from previous postings above, why bother complaining about www.ukfakeid.com since yourself are promoting the SCAM site auautodocs.com and itīs clones?

DAVID,

I live in Los Angeles, California and i know someone in downtown who can get fake driver`s licence, fake id`s or fake green cards.

I`m not a company, I don`t even have a web site.

If u need anything email me arieusa@hotmail.com

You will not send any money whithout seeing ur id or dl.

bex,

i just wana go clubbin ill be 18 in a year but i dnt wana wait
is it worth gettin a fake drivin licence online or will i just get ripped off??
any good sites?? wb

SIM,

Oh stop being a JERK c the light!!!!!!!!! Go get a new LIFE!

c the light,

weu u practice 2 decive u get what u all get decived

Rexxus,

SIM,

Could you please post the payment instructions you did receive from EUROPEAN DL / EU-Autodocs in this forum?

Thanks!

Rexxus,

"Sarah" - You liar!

Yeah, right! So they have an email address! Wow! And a PO Box! Amazing!
Must very hard to get! Lol!

A reliable payment solution is NOT a check or Postal order. Why do you think no cards are accepted?! Let me guees - "Too much fraud" or "avoid chargebacks"

But of course, you can "assure" the are real! I wonder why are are so persistent to "inform" all readers about this SCAM site?

Yes, sadly for you - I am Mr Know It All and you are Ms/Mr. Rip-off-site-promotor

I know you will reply defending the SCAM site. Another person would not waste the time! Right?

SIM,

GUYS! JUST BEWARE of europeandl com and getalicense.com It's the same SCAM SITE offering exchange of EUROPEAN DL... I have been a VICTIM and I hope there wont be more Victims like me who lost our precious hard earned MONEY to bastards... Im sure these bastards will get their due punishments in due time...

Sarah,

AND as for Jo... you wont find fake IDs with the REAL hologram on them...
Bouncers don't tend to look at the hologram and what it says they just take note of the hologram being there.
It's rare that they notice things like that where I live.... infact I don't know anyone who has been caught out with their fake id.
x

Sarah,

"REXXUS"

I'm NOT promoting a scam... It's not a scam...
they do have a reliable payement solution....
They do have a physical adress....
They do have a company....
they do have a phone number....
and they also have an email adress so you can contant them...
just because you haven't looked through the site properly to spot all the things doesn't mean they're a scam because I can assure you they aren't.
But whatever you're ovbiously a mr know it all! lol
x

WATCHOUT,

I THINK THIS IS A SCAM TOO WWW.GETALICENCE.COM ,TOMMOROW IM GONNA CALL BACK MY PAYMENT BEFORE IT CLEARS
...

Rexxus,

"Sarah",

SCAM - http://www.phakeid.co.uk/

Cut the crap and stop promoting another rip off web site.

Again:
No reliable payment solution
No physcial address
No company
No phone number
No fax number

jo,

can i just say, wudnt any bouncer with sense no a driving licence wasnt real as fake ones dont have 'dvla' on them do they?! just a thout lol as im looking for a fake id that works!

Sarah,

Hey,
I want a fake ID so I can do various things an 18 year old can do... Like go to the pubs and stuff... my friend got a fake ID from http://www.phakeid.co.uk/
and it came through and everything so it's not a scam but I was just wandering if anyone knows a site where you can get a fake driving licence... thats NOT a scam, because it's more likely to work than a national identity card.

Get back to me as soon as :] Thanks
xxx

paul,

Hi

Im from Europe / Germany and i m looking for a EU drivers license. Where can i get it?

paul

SIM,

All you Guys who have been duped by the Scammers, pls go to http://www.ic3.gov/ and file a Compaint report to the INTERNET CRIME COMPLAINT CENTRE.

Hope the Scammers get their due punishments in time...

Rexxus,

Cam,

Of course they are a SCAM!

"We accept payment through Western Union. Western Union is the quickest way to make a payment and can get your order started today." Yeah, right! It is also non refundable and is often the only way scammers can get paid since no merchant or bank trust their "business".

No reliable payment
No physcial address
No company
No phone number
No fax number

Domain registerd in Greece(!)
http://www.checkdomain.com/cgi-bin/checkdomain.pl?domain=www.ukfakeid.com

Hosting in Malaysia
http://centralops.net/co/ ( see for your self )

Save your money.

cam,

is http://www.ukfakeid.com a scam????

Rexxus,

SIM,

Good work and good luck. Since Hungaria is in EU, this will strongly increase the possibility to nail this low life guy. The bank in concerna is Raiffeisen and most likely the will have some ID or/and other info like photos etc of the he scammers.

Oh dear poor "Simon", if you cant do the time, dont to the crime!

SIM,

Alternatively, you can send in your complaints to the EUROPEAN UNION POLICE which has it's office located in THE HAGUE,

europol europa eu

email- info@europol.europa.eu

SIM,

Thx for yr advise Rexxus. Will be sending in a complaint report to not only the INTERPOL but to the Hungarian Police as well. Any victims to this scam pls email the Hungarian Police at police@bm.gov.hu .Provide all details to them. I believe one needs a form of I.D to open a bank account in Hungary. Provide the police with the address of the account holder and the address. This person or persons at large must be CAUGHT and brought to JUSTICE!!! Last but not least, SIMON, go to HELL! I sincerely believe you do work for the scammers!
All you guys who have fallen victim to this SCAM, pls send a complaint report to the INTERPOL and to the Hungarian Police!!!

Rexxus,

SIM,

You have been ripped off! Donīt waste time crossing your fingers. I suggest you report the bank to Interpol.

SIM,

Hi, just did a TT of Euro450 over to a bank account in Budapest. Still hoping that I will get my driving licence, Keeping my fingers crossed... If not, Im sure gonna be one very sad guy... Anyone knows where to approach for help? Pls advise

Rexxus,

Fuck "Simon" and his friends! They are of course lying! DO NOT send these persons any funds. They have been removed from Google and if they appear again, request Google or the search engine to erase their accounts.

Sophia,

I am sorry for everyone what you all are going through as I am also having a problem but I got good news for all of you, which is there are two states issuing DL for a yr no legal status asked by DMV and these states are two. 1) UTAH 2)OREGON. I myself have a problem and planning to go there but you have to show where you live in those states and probably you can give shelter's address if you don't have one. There are other states can issue driver licence if you show them tax id #, and you can get those ITI # calling IRS office. These states are NEW MEXICA, MI, NH, WA, WI and so on. Go to national ID website, to find more info. Best of luck. I do feel sorry for everyone going through this issue and you should write to ACLU. Take care!

sophia

Susan,

hey does any1 know if http://www.ukfakeid.com are a scam ?? because i was going to send away to them but i want to make sure 1st! n if they are any1 know a site that will work because i need one soon as!

steeve,

yheaaa pete and simon are maybe the same guy who is indeed the one creating all those cracky sites to ripoff peoples.

maybe a good accusation and report to interpol would be a start in the process to try to track him or them.

john,

I just found this on ripoffreport.com

These guys use various names which change after their site gets shut down. They promise to get you a Drivers License but dont deliver. They use various Bank accounts and get you to do a Bank Transfer, you'll never hear from then again.

They have already been reported on this site by other names but the latest ones are euautodocs.com and eusprung.com. 1 address is a Post Office Box at 22 Fo Ut, Budapest.

They reply to your email using a 3G Mobile Phone, however they are not as smart as they think they are. If anyone has any information or if you are a victim please send me your email address and I'll let you know what happens, Thanks, Don.

Iwould love to know what Pete and Simon think!

mark,

papagiaroofdr@hotmail.comi need a good id site..cananyone help me out..never send for any ids where you need to westernunion money to n.cypress ita a ripoff

tony m,

are these any good im thinking of getin one do they real or fake every other one lokks well fake

John D,

Could Michael please let us know if anybody contacts him to know if it's real or scam?

Ben,

if anyone has ever bought a genuine license from these people then i will buy it from them for double what they paid, and they can get a new one with the money??
any takers (pete and simon)??

Michael,

Can anyone out thier confirm recipt of a valid legit licence approx within the 21 days, which has been authenticated at the Countrys licencing center ?.

If you look carefully into the EU statutes, the service they claim to provide for Ģ299 is totally legal, this loop hole does exsit.

Any happy customers not Simon or Pete please ?

email mike@seil.demon.co.uk

John D,

ps I am not a competitor ,I work stacking shelves in the UK's biggest supermarket chain

John D,

Similar to Dave I offer 600 pounds sterling to euautodocs or europeandi on reciept of a real Polish or Hungarian driving licence.
I will leave good feedback here and on yahoo answers and anywhere else you like. Interested?

Dave,

Looks like they have set up another company EUsprung.com . It has exactly the same wording and content as their other websites and what a surprise that they will only accept payment by bank transfer. Apparantly they can't accept paypal because "they don't approve their business model" hmmm...whats that I wonder? Scamming people? If the company is genuine then I offer them this challange.....Get me a drivers licence and I'll give you Ģ299 upon it's receipt. Additionally I'll come back here and tell everyone that the service is genuine and finally it will settle this argument once and for all about whether it's a scam or a genuine service!

Casandra,

What a bull....!!!!You and simon are the one that working for euautodocs. They are totaly fake!!They dont answer your emails after getting paid.They dont give you any phone number as they claim after getting your files.Eveyone i talk to have not recive any Driving licence after several month.Its very intresting by the way how "pete l"and "simon" that call all of us others for "competitors" did get theirs after only 2 and 3 weeks and how similar their letters are.Why also be so "angry" if they did actually get theirs after 2 and 3 weeks thats someone else that didnt anything complains and then calling us competitors????So dont be a fool dont send them money.

pete l,

they are not ripping anyone off, the above posts are from competitors! those international idl's are no longer being bought since euautodocs came up with the real thing and those guys who run the idl scams are furious. I GOT MINE IN JUST UNDER 3 WEEKS AND IT WAS POLISH, so stfu idl scammers

Tony,

Euautodocs are truley FAKE. Ive been waiting for almost two month now, and sent them several e-mails but didnt get any response at all.I belive too that "Simon" works for them.Its a shame that they are advertising at google "AdWords". I think that you all should write too google so they stop their fake advertisment.So do not send them anything!

Gianni,

If he is ripping people off he needs sorting out,I hate rip off merchants.

Peter,

I find it hilarious that euautodocs advertises on this page.

Larry,

euautodocs com is a total and complete scam. if anybody else got ripped of by them and want to find the guy and put him in jail where he belongs email me. I know his name and address and where he lives in England. My email is sloth@pulpfiction.com. Maybe we can hire a guy in London to break his kneecaps?

john,

there are just a bunch of ass holes i never got mine either. dont send any money.

Damm,

europeandl com Are a fake. Do not send. They respond to your e-mails when they want your money and details. After that not heard a thing from them. Sent e-mail after e-mail and nothing. Don't send them anything.

Need to shut them down! Any ideas and who to report them to?

annon,

euautodocs is a scam, believe me I know, I fell victim for taken the short cut, lost lots of money and made me really angry, but I was desperate for personal reasons, now past my teat and beats any feeling ever, euautodocs need stopping any ideas how to do this???????

Fezzle,

Simon is probably working for Euautodocs.
Think if they are legit, as they say, why dont they have any valid address or office and why dont they deal with any post? Why dont they have a phone number?

Secondly, the way they want money, western union, is the most insecure method for a buyer.

john,

I don't know what to think now with what Simon wrote. I presumed euautodocs was a scam but now I am not so sure.Does Hungary SELL licences ? And does it matter to them as these people won't drive in Hungary?

Jack C,

fakeiduk net seem to sell the same licences as fakeidland.co.uk and i have recieved a card myself, there really good actually, not been knocked back from any clubs yet!

Sarah,

Yeah i was seriously thinking about getting myself an EU licence from euautodocs.com I now believe its a total and utter scam, I have just taken a look on europeandl com and its the same site but with a different name any one who sends any money to these animals are a fool. Think am going to take the advice from the above and just pass my test in the UK.

Jack Spratt,

First thing, the spelling of several individuals on this forum is diabolical. Obviously if you cannot write properly it shows you lack even the most basic of intelligence. It is no wonder you need a fake licence.

Secondly, if someone hit you, your child, a friend or anyone else close to you, and did so whilst using an illegal document such as a fake licence, then all insurance would be invalid. Your kid will be on life-support or in a wheelchair, all because some lowlife chose to take the easy way out.
Anyone choosing to buy a fake for the purposes of driving is a wanker, and deserves their legs broken before they do any damage to anyone else.

Dan,

Hi there, I have an expired USA licence and can't be bothered in taking another test in the EU.

Can some one give me some advice of what can be done.

I don't mind paying as long as it is a really good solution.

Please E-mail me fxdeals@hotmail.com

simon,

your full of it, euautodocs com isnt fake, i got my licence within two weeks and my friend got his too both were hungarian licences and they are definately not fake. i bet you sell those fake international licences or something, whats the matter? business bad or what?

sippy ross,

i am looken for a n.ireland driving licence if anyone know where i would get one could you please emial me on nathancastlewellan19@hotmail.com thanx

john,

Wow ,I found euautodocs yesterday and was thinking about sending off for a licence.Glad I found this site first ,Thanks Winnie you just saved me 300 pounds

Winnie,

I am with you Hawk, lets device a plan to shut fake sites like europeandl com and euautodocs com down. Lets bring these thieving gits to the ground.

Winnie,

europeandl com and euautodocs com are operated by same persons. It is a totally fake site, with fake promises. Don't give them money, its a rip off. If you want a licence take a test.

bish,

can any 1 do know, or does fake driven licence
can some 1 let me know please i wantit to use it abrod not for this contry

halliday,

i just sent my money away yesterday to .fakeidland co uk

whish i came here first

HAWK1806,

DO NOT SEND EUROPEANDL MONEY IT IS A SCAM, I WANT TO START A COMPAIGN TO STOP THEM RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.

I WOULD SUGGEST TO DOWNLOAD A MULTIPLE EMAIL SENDER TO CLOG UP THEIR SERVER

PLEASE REPLY: HAWK1806@GMAIL.COM

REVENGE IS SWEET

hawk1806,

I have sent mony to europeandl and they are not answering my mails. I guess they are just crooks.

mac,

plz i need some clarity about europeandl,are they really fake.plz help b4 i fall a victim

john,

hi last wekk i went to pass my test but a coud not pass on reversin if any 1 can elp send bak

Bill,

fakeidland co uk
One more thieves!
Receive money but do not send!!!

DK,

AS far as I know you have to be a resident in a state to get a license in that state. However, if you want to check officially check with AAMVA. go to

American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators
AAMVA represents licensing and vehicle administration agencies throughout the U.S. and Canada. This site offers a clickable map with links to local agencies by state and province. These are the organizations to approach if you need information about licensing rules in your area. You will find their link here --
http://www.drivers.com/topic/62/

ed,

I work in a bank amd a customer came in to cash a check. I asked for ID and the customer produced a florida license but the address was from philadelphia. Is this legal?can someone please reply


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