what a bunch of fascist bullshit
BC's impaired drivers face indefinite licence suspension
· By: Peter McPherson
· Date: 2000-08-13
If you're a safe and responsible driver, chances are you've never heard of Indefinite Licence Suspension, or ILS. But for more than 11,000 Canadians in British Columbia province whose dangerous driving resulted in a criminal conviction at some point in the past three years, ILS is very real.
In 1996, half of all B.C. drivers who died in crashes had been drinking, and the vast majority of these were over the legal blood alcohol limit. The tragic consequences of impaired and dangerous driving led the B.C. government to introduce ILS in 1997.
ILS is a tough road safety initiative that imposes automatic and mandatory driver's licence suspensions on B.C. drivers convicted of motor vehicle related Criminal Code of Canada offences such as impaired driving or dangerous driving. It's making a difference in getting dangerous drivers off the road and keeping them off for extended periods of time.
Impaired driving is among the leading causes of death and injury on B.C. roads. For many years police have seen the terrible results of impaired and dangerous driving-needless deaths and injuries to innocent people who had no idea they were sharing the road with convicted dangerous drivers. With ILS, police have another way to get dangerous drivers off the road and make B.C. roads safer for all road users.
The ILS program is based on a simple "three strikes and you're out" model, with drivers convicted of motor vehicle related Criminal Code of Canada offences receiving suspensions that increase in length on a second or third conviction. A first conviction results in an automatic one-year driver's licence suspension. A second conviction within ten years leads to an automatic three-year suspension. A driver who receives a third conviction, within 10 years of an earlier conviction, receives an indefinite suspension, which may not be ended for at least 10 years. And the person must successfully complete a remediation program to address the impaired driving or other problems that led to their convictions. The B.C. government is currently developing remediation programs. More than four out of five people receiving ILS program suspensions are convicted of an impaired driving-related offence.
When it was introduced, the ILS legislation was one of the strongest steps ever taken by a government in Canada to get dangerous drivers off the road. Today, the ILS penalties for repeat offenders remain among the toughest in the country.
With the ILS legislation nearing its third anniversary, just over 11,000 ILS program suspensions have already been issued, more than 9,000 of them for one year, 1,700 for three years and close to 500 for an indefinite period.
This summer, B.C's driver licensing computer systems are being updated to make ILS even more effective. Starting this July, police computer systems will automatically provide police with up-to-date information on the status of drivers whose licences have been suspended. This will make it easier for police to enforce ILS program suspensions and to make sure people with suspended licences are kept off the road. Anyone who ignores their suspension risks being charged with Driving While Suspended, which has penalties that include 10 driver penalty points, fines and jail time.
The combination of strong laws, improved information for police and consistent enforcement is making a difference on B.C. roads, and over time is expected to reduce the number of British Columbia families affected by the tragedy of needless death and injury.
Read more details of the program (PDF).
For more information contact:
Peter McPherson
Senior Communications Coordinator
Ministry of Transportation and Highways
Telephone: (250) 387-6770
Facsimile: (250) 356-7706 ![]()
Comments
max powers, on Friday, 11. August 2006 at 12:50 AM
David anti cash grab, on Sunday, 20. August 2006 at 12:15 AM
To true Max.I got busted and am in the middle of this bullshit program that does nothing but rob one of thousands of dollars.I got busted driving one block in the winter at 2am having made it home safely.I was pulled over in my driveway for no headlights.The street was well lit,and now I have a criminal record and am looking at major dollars to get back on the road if I choose that route.since walking,I've been hit 3 separate times by old folks.I have never caused even close to a accident while impaired.Now I'm being reamed up the backside by this evil corrupt government of ours.Thailand ,here I come!See you later Canada.
Ken, on Saturday, 04. November 2006 at 09:07 AM
Driving is a privilege not a right. Driving while impaired is not only stupid it is an infringement on the rights of others.(ie you are a hazard on the road) Tell your story to someone like me who has lost a son, daughter, friend etc to some idiot who was driving while impaired. I would like to see this strictly enforced and the maximum penalties applied. I support "lifetime" bans for those who are chronic DUI's or who have caused death or injury. For those who drive while suspended the vehicles should be confiscated and then sold or crushed.
dylan, on Saturday, 20. January 2007 at 10:56 PM
i would just like to know how many penalty points you can have before you lose your licence
thanx
Doug, on Monday, 22. January 2007 at 11:34 AM
Max, David:
You might be perfect candidates to read and see the videos at
http://www.icbc.com/road_safety/roadsafety_drinkdrive.asp#1
Does this sound familiar??
QUOTE:
Are you still making excuses?
Having "a few drinks" before getting behind the wheel is widely viewed as unacceptable, yet some people are still coming up with reasons why it's okay.
New CounterAttack advertising in B.C. is spreading the message that drinking any alcohol and driving could cost you more than you think.
"Excuses" is the main theme
The ad campaign takes common, everyday excuses for drinking and driving, such as...
* "I can handle my liquor."
* "Leaving my car overnight is a hassle."
* "It's only a short drive home."
... then shows the real consequences — from losing your license to killing people.
END QUOTE ---------------
David "made it home safely" ... as if the goal is to drink, then drive, and make it home safely. Plenty of drunk drivers like you DON'T make it home safely one time... often it is the LAST episode after months or years of driving after drinking. Then they decide to stop doing it. After they injured or killed someone.
Too late.
Doug, on Monday, 22. January 2007 at 11:37 AM
Dylan:
If you are in BC, you can see the points system explained at
http://www.icbc.com/licensing/lic_fines_pen_index.asp
and details at
http://www.icbc.com/licensing/lic_fines_pen_fine_chart.asp
Scott, on Wednesday, 14. February 2007 at 10:43 PM
I was charged recently in Ontario for impaired driving,blowing over .8.Totally friggin stupid I know.I'm now coming back to B.C. to work and live.Does anyone know if I can retain a license in B.C.as my Ontario license is now suspended for three months.By the way if anyone plans on going out for the night and parking their car overnight somewhere,don't do it.Leave it at home or have a designated driver that will keep your keys,and leave you free from temptation.Thank god no one got hurt.
Doug, on Thursday, 15. February 2007 at 12:56 PM
Scott:
If you are suspended in Ontario, then BC will not grant you a license. But 3 months is not long, and BC has good public transit. You could try talking to government officials about it. See
http://www.icbc.com/licensing/lic_renew_replace_new.asp
J.richards, on Saturday, 24. March 2007 at 10:21 PM
First A 1 year suspention at 19,then 2 yrs ,and at 23 indefinately gone.Its now been about 8.5 yrs.I havent been able to drive,without ever being in accident.I am greatful however that no one was ever injured.I am 29 now and believe my licencse is coming this year,after I take test again!I do know someone whom possibly killed a person while under the influence.He spent time in jail,yrs,and ils!It couldve been me or you!
John, on Sunday, 13. May 2007 at 01:59 PM
DUI is not a smart and safe thing to do,however not causing damages,or injuries or death to anyone, has cost me a lot of pressure in my life lost a very good paying job,unemployed at this moment,lawyers are a waste of money still owe my lawyer and the fine now have to pay for a course,to see if i am suitable to drive.Will not even grant a license so i can work and support my family,my advise DO NOT DRINK ADN DRIVE>
j, on Tuesday, 29. May 2007 at 02:20 PM
if you have recieved a 3rd dui result was an accident with only bodily harm to your self know one else involved does this go on your criminal record? (i think it might) if it does is there a way to get it off?
Allan, on Monday, 25. June 2007 at 07:13 PM
I blew over .8(Fail at Ride program then 121 and 106 at the station)..what are my chances...Ontario...first time
aka1, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 11:30 PM
Allan, I think you need a good lawyer. It's a criminal offense so there are serious consequencs you may not have thought about.
ken, on Tuesday, 22. January 2008 at 12:29 AM
I was charged with a second impaired and I received 14 days in jail.(automatic) and an 18mths suspension of my license by a judge. Icbc slapped me with another 18 mths,so I have to take the vision test and the sign test and a road test to get my license back.It has been a real drag walking and catching the bus,but I have since quit drinking and I have learned my lesson.It just is not worth it.
Linda, on Tuesday, 22. January 2008 at 07:10 PM
I have a second impaired pending. This happened in June of 06. I was supposed to go to court in April of 07 but was adjourned until Feb 08.. This is extensive amount of time before being formally charged. I have a lawyer. Do you think they might drop the charges as it has been so long??
Russell, on Tuesday, 12. February 2008 at 04:35 PM
i was charged with duiDec 26
impounded my car, plus 24 hour suspension plus 90 day suspension
Case thrown out of court in Feb. They refuse to recind the 90 day suspension , citing a different burden of proof. Not guilty , charges dropped and 90 day suspension. NAZIS
RICK, on Monday, 18. February 2008 at 11:49 AM
I recieved a 24 hour roadside suspension for "suspision" of being under the influence....Not for drinking but for weed....I was NOT HIGH. How can I fight the 24 hour so my rates don't go up, and I dont end up with some friggin suspension? I drive for work, that is why I DONT DRINK AND DRIVE.....please let me know, thanks!
don, on Monday, 18. February 2008 at 03:21 PM
You need to talk to the para legal ex cops such as Pointts
Britt, on Monday, 18. February 2008 at 07:27 PM
I was given a 24 hour suspension, and a court date, can anyone tell me what happens at the court date?
jack, on Wednesday, 12. March 2008 at 10:18 PM
I have 9 months to go from a year suspension. Does anyone know if its ok to drive in USA? i mean im only convicted here in BC
lori, on Sunday, 27. April 2008 at 05:46 PM
Hi I am in a similar situation to Doug. I have my license suspended for 3 years but want to move to toronto are you guys sure there is no way to get a license there? Do they have it in their computer system? I was thinking about starting from a learners license that way they may not check my old license. Does anyone know if that would work???
Liz, on Tuesday, 13. May 2008 at 10:40 AM
Hi, Im currently living in Ontario and my husband and I are planning to move to British Columbia or Alberta for work.
My husbands licence has been suspended for over 15 years due to unpaid fines. Can he get a new licence in another province? I no he cant drive in ontario, but can he drive somewhere else? He can only get his licence in Ontario if we pay the fines, but we cant afford it. His fines are not due to any dangerous driving or dui's, it was just driving with no licence or no insurance back when he was young.
Admin, on Thursday, 15. May 2008 at 11:33 PM
Liz,
Here's what the Alberta Government website says about a license suspension in another province..
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2566.htm
"I am suspended in another province but now living in Alberta. I would like an Alberta driver’s licence. What should I do?
If your license is suspended in another province you must contact that province and clear their suspension before you can be licensed in Alberta."
I suspect it's the same in BC. Check here... http://www.icbc.com/licensing/lic_fines_pen_index.asp
this is bullshit, on Thursday, 19. June 2008 at 02:32 AM
Im loosing my license for smoking weed.... and im a good driver who frequently prevents accidents on the crazy island roads... main thing is i was pulled over during the day entering a on ramp abiding all laws and pulled over when a officer with redder eyes then mine proceeded to tell me my eyes were a bit red and made me step out of the car(i wasnt smoking weed honestly) i did a few tests for just smoking weed one were most people would fail of ignorance the others i passed and they still impounded my car.. I lost total respect for the system.. i can't understand how are own government can rape are pockets like this... there is a law for everything no one is safe if there pockets are low. Sooner or later enough has to be enough....btw another offense of mine was a ticket for a spare tire...
perry, on Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 08:21 PM
does anyone have any idea about a second offense charge? I was charged 14 years ago, and unfortunatley due to my own stupidity and a nagging wife i was stopped again this year. I have been told by every lawyer i talked to different things. some say i will, others say i won't. Any ideas?? If i have to hire a lawyer my daughter can kiss her first year of univeristy away..so i need some answers..thanks
Gary, on Thursday, 07. August 2008 at 11:04 AM
perry,
If you think long and hard enough, my hope is that you attribute your situation to the former, the latter we all got, doesn't mean there's gonna be a demolishin derby every night. Go to your initial appearance, in the absence of any lawyer, they will hand you your "file" immediately flip to the yellow page, it will indicate the crown's initial sentencing position. You'll get that before you have to decide anything. ask for a minute to review it, that will tell you what the crown will recommend to the Judge. At that juncture you have two options; ask for an adjournment of a week or two and then talk to lawyer about it, some lawyers will probably offer to look at your file for free maybe and tell you if you have any hope of a defense. Another option at that juncture is to just plead guilty, if the crown's initial sentencing position is 12 months to 18 months [who gives a shit about the fine but it will be 800 or 1000] and you think you're dead in the water you may want to save yourself the 10-12,000 the lawyer and expert witness will cost to roll the dice. If you plead guilty, ask for an opportunity to speak on your defence with respect to sentencing and explain your dielema and that you've learned your lesson. My guess is you get 18 months on the strength of one prior 14 years ago, whether the presence and work of a lawyer can parlay that into only 12 months I don't know. Another consideration is this; If you manage to get into court and sentenced right away my understanding at least is that any suspension will run concurrent to the 90 day suspension you should already be serving, at least that is what I was told by ICBC. Good luck and don't drink and drive.
Jenna, on Thursday, 21. August 2008 at 04:47 PM
Hi everyone. I have ON driving license and got into an accident without insurance. The first time i went to court the judge dismissed the case.So the insurance company filed a reappeal and the arrangements they gave me were very unreasonble, expected me to pay 6000 in 2 months. So now they suspended my license and are telling me to pay 8200 asap otherwise my license will remain suspended. I cant pay this moneyI have asked for an arrangement they are giving me only 1 year to pay 8200. Please help and let me know my options I have asked to pay 500 a month which is already hard to do but the insurance is refusing to accept that arrangement
thanks everyone.
randy, on Friday, 29. August 2008 at 01:11 AM
my daughters boyfriend who was serving court imposed suspension of one year for driving offences including a 24 hour has now been pulled over and caught driving while under suspension and also got another 24 hour suspension (re booze again). question when this all goes to court what can he expect to get fine/suspension/jail?
jordi, on Saturday, 06. September 2008 at 11:37 AM
One thing all the people with DUI's on this site have all done is refuse to aknowldge the idiousy of operating a motor vehicle after any alcohol what so ever.
C'mon get fricken real here folks!!!!
I only drove this far.!
I'm out there preventing accidents "stoned".!
How can I shirk all responsibility in another province!
the Gov is wrong to fine me so much!
How can I avoid the conseqenses now that "I" got busted!
all of these way's of thiking are selfish and do not take into account the people who's loved ones are gone forever !!!!!!!that's "FOREVER"...for all you able to rationalize driving drunk or "just drinking a little"these people must get sick to their stomach"s thinking about their losses and reading this "crock after crock Of bullshit"
I'm different ,"I can handle it"
EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES,any one of you people ever hear the word"problem drinker!
these so called problem drinkers get suspension after suspension DUI after DUI and all they can thik about is how to get away from the law.
One symptom of the disease of alcoholism is a condition of mind called "being in full flight from reality " at a certain point the alcoholic can no longer defentiate between right and wrong!
in other word's a normal drinker leaves the key's at home ahead of time knowing
that the alcohol will be part of the evening's entertainment .!!!
the "alcoholic " or if you prefer delusion to reality "the problem drinker will take the key's out and drink and start to justify the drive home as they begin to lose control of their judment and ability to think rationaly.....this is the rub can you leave it alone and still socialise or can you leave the key's alone knowing ahead of time you don't stay within the limits of the law regaurding consumption and driving.
If your interested in finding out if you suffer from alcoholism just bite the bullit and go find an AA meeting in your area and go see .
it's free and no one will know who you are or what your doing there,so just drop in and grab a cup of coffee and listen you may find it is what you have been searching for all alone
But please don't take the key's take a taxi.......
synjones, on Tuesday, 16. September 2008 at 11:23 AM
Hi to every body.
Before going for the insurance check with the insurance company about they conditions.then go for the incurance.
synjones
California DUI
Scotty, on Tuesday, 30. September 2008 at 07:40 PM
Does anybody know if you are allowed to leave the country after being charged for driving while suspended>?
Barney, on Thursday, 02. October 2008 at 11:19 PM
you might be in big trouble at the border
Bob, on Wednesday, 19. November 2008 at 08:48 AM
I have a question and hope someone knows the answer. Someone in my family moved to Alberta (from Ontario) in July and says he now has an Alberta driver's license. Problem is, my wife and I got a letter yesterday from Ontario saying his license has been suspended for unpaid fines. My question is: Is it remotely possible that he really does have an Alberta driver's license? I thought he would have to surrender his Ontario license to get the Alberta one. If so, then how could Ontario suspend his license? And, is it even possible to get an Alberta license if you have unpaid fines in Ontario? Thanks for commenting.
DK, on Wednesday, 19. November 2008 at 10:07 PM
Bob, I don't see a problem if he already has an Alberta license. However, if you want more information go to
www.drivershandbook.com and click CANADA and then Alberta and the link about Moving to Alberta from another province.
zoe, on Thursday, 20. November 2008 at 02:47 AM
I had my driver's licence suspended and I drove. The police did not notice that my driver's licence is suspended. Now I have to go and get my new driver's licence. Do I get into troubles or they will give it to me.
Arne, on Thursday, 20. November 2008 at 09:03 AM
I think you are gong to have a problem Zoe, unless there's a computer glitch or something.


